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Old 10-23-2005, 17:02   #1 (permalink)
Brian Wakem
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Default Browser usage by useragent

Most stats packages do a pretty poor job of determining how many vistors are
using which browser IMO.

So, I just knocked up a little script, mainly to see how much Firefox had
penetrated the market, and to see how much IE is suffering with all its bad
press, security flaws etc.

The answer is not a lot. Here are the stats taken from 1 day picked at
random on our website (Last Tuesday as it happens).


Agent Hits
MSIE 285178 [ 87.3% ]
Googlebot 15653 [ 4.8% ]
Firefox 12734 [ 3.9% ]
Other 4916 [ 1.5% ]
Mozilla 3322 [ 1.0% ]
Yahoo! Slurp 1679 [ 0.5% ]
Opera 1293 [ 0.4% ]
Konqueror 962 [ 0.3% ]
msnbot 477 [ 0.1% ]
LWP 286 [ 0.1% ]


I must say I am quite shocked that IE still has such a firm grip on the
browser market. And Googlebot produced more hits than Firefox!


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Old 10-23-2005, 17:02   #2 (permalink)
Mark Goodge
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Default Re: Browser usage by useragent

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 1435 +0100, Brian Wakem put finger to keyboard
and typed:

>Most stats packages do a pretty poor job of determining how many vistors are
>using which browser IMO.
>
>So, I just knocked up a little script, mainly to see how much Firefox had
>penetrated the market, and to see how much IE is suffering with all its bad
>press, security flaws etc.
>
>The answer is not a lot. Here are the stats taken from 1 day picked at
>random on our website (Last Tuesday as it happens).
>
>
>Agent Hits
>MSIE 285178 [ 87.3% ]
>Googlebot 15653 [ 4.8% ]
>Firefox 12734 [ 3.9% ]
>Other 4916 [ 1.5% ]
>Mozilla 3322 [ 1.0% ]
>Yahoo! Slurp 1679 [ 0.5% ]
>Opera 1293 [ 0.4% ]
>Konqueror 962 [ 0.3% ]
>msnbot 477 [ 0.1% ]
>LWP 286 [ 0.1% ]
>
>
>I must say I am quite shocked that IE still has such a firm grip on the
>browser market. And Googlebot produced more hits than Firefox!


You need to take into account the fact that nearly everything which
has reason (good or bad) to hide its true nature does so by pretending
to be IE. The problem is that there is no way, from the UA stats
alone, to tell how many hits this accounts for.

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Old 10-23-2005, 17:02   #3 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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Default Re: Browser usage by useragent

Brian Wakem wrote

> Most stats packages do a pretty poor job of determining how many
> vistors are using which browser IMO.
>
> So, I just knocked up a little script, mainly to see how much Firefox
> had penetrated the market, and to see how much IE is suffering with
> all its bad press, security flaws etc.
>
> The answer is not a lot. Here are the stats taken from 1 day picked
> at random on our website (Last Tuesday as it happens).
>
>
> Agent Hits
> MSIE 285178 [ 87.3% ]
> Googlebot 15653 [ 4.8% ]
> Firefox 12734 [ 3.9% ]
> Other 4916 [ 1.5% ]
> Mozilla 3322 [ 1.0% ]
> Yahoo! Slurp 1679 [ 0.5% ]
> Opera 1293 [ 0.4% ]
> Konqueror 962 [ 0.3% ]
> msnbot 477 [ 0.1% ]
> LWP 286 [ 0.1% ]
>
>
> I must say I am quite shocked that IE still has such a firm grip on
> the browser market. And Googlebot produced more hits than Firefox!


Depends on your site. What is the makeup of your average visitor?

Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE, which is
normally how I have it set.

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Old 10-23-2005, 17:02   #4 (permalink)
Brian Wakem
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Default Re: Browser usage by useragent

Charles Sweeney wrote:


> Depends on your site. What is the makeup of your average visitor?
>
> Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE, which is
> normally how I have it set.
>



It still has 'Opera' in the string somewhere, that is what I tested for.


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Old 10-23-2005, 17:02   #5 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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Default Re: Browser usage by useragent

Brian Wakem wrote

> Charles Sweeney wrote:
>> Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE


> It still has 'Opera' in the string somewhere, that is what I tested for.


Right. Didn't know that.

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Old 10-23-2005, 17:02   #6 (permalink)
Toby Inkster
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Default Re: Browser usage by useragent

Brian Wakem wrote:
> Charles Sweeney wrote:
>
>> Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE, which is
>> normally how I have it set.

>
> It still has 'Opera' in the string somewhere, that is what I tested for.


Since version 8.0 there is a "true spoofing" mode that allows it to spoof
IE 6 and Netscape 3.0, 4.78 and 5.0 without "Opera" in the User-Agent
header at all!

The option is not available in the GUI, but can be switched on through
opera6.ini, or through ua.ini on a site-by-site basis. The default ua.ini
provided upon installation turns on true spoofing for a few sites.

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Old 10-23-2005, 17:02   #7 (permalink)
Ed Jay
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Toby Inkster <usenet200510@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote:

>Brian Wakem wrote:
>> Charles Sweeney wrote:
>>
>>> Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE, which is
>>> normally how I have it set.

>>
>> It still has 'Opera' in the string somewhere, that is what I tested for.

>
>Since version 8.0 there is a "true spoofing" mode that allows it to spoof
>IE 6 and Netscape 3.0, 4.78 and 5.0 without "Opera" in the User-Agent
>header at all!
>
>The option is not available in the GUI, but can be switched on through
>opera6.ini, or through ua.ini on a site-by-site basis. The default ua.ini
>provided upon installation turns on true spoofing for a few sites.


You mentioned this recently, but I can't find what string and where to put
the what-string into opera6.ini. How about a clue...please.

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