Browser usage by useragent

Karim <karim3412@yahoo.moc> wrote:

> When IE 7.0 comes out next year with tabbed browsing and the features
> that made people switch to Firefox, with fixes to CSS hacks, XHTML
> complianiance.. etc, I predict many users will switch back to IE and
> IE will again have over 90% market share.

Yup, I might be one of those :-D.

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote

> Charles Sweeney wrote:
>
>> Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE, which
>> is normally how I have it set.
>
> I never do that, unless I am playing with a clueless web author's "IE
> required" site.

Likewise. In my case it was the bank.

> I *want* the sites/stats to count up and reflect that I do not use IE.

I share those sentiments, but it was easier for me just to keep it on
IE.

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Gerry for email use my name at dergal dt com wrote

> One of the things that has suprised me is how much of a difference,
> different websites have (stats wise) in anything you can gather... IT
> orientated websites, finance, "fun", business etc... all seem to have
> quite different stats... Businesses often don't use anything but IE
> - yet for some reason some colleges and schools seem to be using
> Netscape (or Firefox)...

Indeed. Designers/publishers tend to use Macs, which tend to use Safari,
so sites aimed at them might expect to see a much higher share for Safari.
By way of example.

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Toby Inkster wrote:
> Brian Wakem wrote:
>
>>Charles Sweeney wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE, which is
>>>normally how I have it set.
>>
>>It still has 'Opera' in the string somewhere, that is what I tested for.
>
>
> Since version 8.0 there is a "true spoofing" mode that allows it to spoof
> IE 6 and Netscape 3.0, 4.78 and 5.0 without "Opera" in the User-Agent
> header at all!
>
> The option is not available in the GUI, but can be switched on through
> opera6.ini, or through ua.ini on a site-by-site basis. The default ua.ini
> provided upon installation turns on true spoofing for a few sites.
>

Well it's meaningless then. How many users actually know how to switch
that on or are likely to switch it on? It's hardly even worth bringing up.

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And lo, SpaceGirl didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> Toby Inkster wrote:
>> Brian Wakem wrote:
>>> Charles Sweeney wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE, which
>>>> is normally how I have it set.
>>>
>>> It still has 'Opera' in the string somewhere, that is what I tested
>>> for.
>>
>> Since version 8.0 there is a "true spoofing" mode that allows it to
>> spoof IE 6 and Netscape 3.0, 4.78 and 5.0 without "Opera" in the User-
>> Agent header at all!
>> The option is not available in the GUI, but can be switched on through
>> opera6.ini, or through ua.ini on a site-by-site basis. The default
>> ua.ini provided upon installation turns on true spoofing for a few
>> sites.
>
> Well it's meaningless then. How many users actually know how to switch
> that on or are likely to switch it on? It's hardly even worth bringing
> up.

As of version 9.0 (currently in Preview), it can be easily done through
the opera:config UI. Just scroll down to "User Agent" and select 4 or 5.
Agents 1 to 3 are the Opera-tagged strings.

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SpaceGirl wrote

> Toby Inkster wrote:
>> The option is not available in the GUI, but can be switched on
>> through opera6.ini, or through ua.ini on a site-by-site basis. The
>> default ua.ini provided upon installation turns on true spoofing for
>> a few sites.
>>
>
> Well it's meaningless then. How many users actually know how to switch
> that on or are likely to switch it on? It's hardly even worth bringing
> up.

That's him told!

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 1816 -0400, GreyWyvern wrote:

> And lo, SpaceGirl didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>> Toby Inkster wrote:
>>> Brian Wakem wrote:
>>>> Charles Sweeney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bear in mind also that Opera for one can identify itself as IE, which
>>>>> is normally how I have it set.
>>>>
>>>> It still has 'Opera' in the string somewhere, that is what I tested
>>>> for.
>>>
>>> Since version 8.0 there is a "true spoofing" mode that allows it to
>>> spoof IE 6 and Netscape 3.0, 4.78 and 5.0 without "Opera" in the User-
>>> Agent header at all!
>>> The option is not available in the GUI, but can be switched on through
>>> opera6.ini, or through ua.ini on a site-by-site basis. The default
>>> ua.ini provided upon installation turns on true spoofing for a few
>>> sites.
>>
>> Well it's meaningless then. How many users actually know how to switch
>> that on or are likely to switch it on? It's hardly even worth bringing
>> up.
>
> As of version 9.0 (currently in Preview), it can be easily done through
> the opera:config UI. Just scroll down to "User Agent" and select 4 or 5.
> Agents 1 to 3 are the Opera-tagged strings.
>
> Grey

Even if it's very accessible, why would one mess around with the user agent
setting unless Opera can't display the viewed site properly. The other
question is once the setting changes because of a problematic site, would a
typical user remember to change it back?

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