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10-21-2005, 14:02
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| Civilians |  Re: IE and a mind of its own :( Arne wrote > Once upon a time *Charles Sweeney* wrote: > >> Mark Parnell wrote >> >>> Try using a doctype that triggers Standards mode instead of Quirks >>> mode. At the moment you are relying on the browser's error- correction >>> mechanism, which differs from browser to browser - even more than >>> their implementations of the standards. :-) >> >> I demand a refund! >> >> I am doing a major overhaul of a site just now. I am viewing it in >> Firefox, Opera and IE. Naturally there are slight differences. >> >> I read your post, and thought I would give it a try. I put in this >> doctype (didn't have one before): >> >> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> >> >> I then refreshed each browser. Didn't make a blind bit of difference! >> >> DOCTYPE SHMOCTYPE! >> > > Charles, that single line don't change anything, it's still quirks > (browser guessing) mode.  > > Add the link to W3C dtd file and see what happends > > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> > > Even better: > > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> > > Thanks Arne. Noted. You're right, it didn't make any difference on its own, but I think Mark simply said "add a doctype" (or words to that effect) which I did. I will give it a try. I should say, the differences I am getting are very minor, and don't bother me much. It was Mark's comment about unpredictable quirks versus unpredictable adherence to standards that aroused my curiosity. -- Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com |
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10-21-2005, 22:03
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| Civilians | Re: IE and a mind of its own :( Arne <invalid@domain.invalid> writes: > Once upon a time *Charles Sweeney* wrote: > > I read your post, and thought I would give it a try. I put in this > > doctype (didn't have one before): > > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> > > > > I then refreshed each browser. Didn't make a blind bit of difference! > > > > DOCTYPE SHMOCTYPE! > > Charles, that single line don't change anything, it's still quirks > (browser guessing) mode. > > Add the link to W3C dtd file and see what happends > > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> > > Even better: > > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> In Firefox, I can tell the rendering mode by the line in File / Info. Anybody know off-hand you you tellin IE and Opera? -- David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/> RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/> Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/> Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/> |
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10-21-2005, 22:03
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| Civilians | Re: IE and a mind of its own :( Once upon a time *David Dyer-Bennet* wrote: > Arne <invalid@domain.invalid> writes: > >> Once upon a time *Charles Sweeney* wrote: > >> > I read your post, and thought I would give it a try. I put in this >> > doctype (didn't have one before): >> > >> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> >> > >> > I then refreshed each browser. Didn't make a blind bit of difference! >> > >> > DOCTYPE SHMOCTYPE! >> >> Charles, that single line don't change anything, it's still quirks >> (browser guessing) mode. >> >> Add the link to W3C dtd file and see what happends >> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" >> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> >> >> Even better: >> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" >> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> > > In Firefox, I can tell the rendering mode by the line in File / Info. Yes, also Mozilla Suite has that feature, among many others > Anybody know off-hand you you tellin IE and Opera? In IE you can type a javascript alert in the address bar ( javascript: alert(document.compatMode); void 0 ) and the browser will tell you if the page is "CSS1Compat" (Standard mode) or "BackCompat" (Quirks mode). -- /Arne Now killing all top posters and posters who don't quote * How to post: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html * From Google: http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/ ------------------------------------------------------------- |
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10-22-2005, 22:02
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| Civilians | Re: IE and a mind of its own :( "Adam Risser" <arisser@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1130008739.613888.37630@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com... > So: > > div.container { > width:100%; > margin:0px; > border:0px; > line-height:150%; > } > > to > > div.container { > width:1000px; > margin:0px; > border:0px; > line-height:150%; > } Hi Adam, Many thanks for your idea, I had given up getting any tips altogether. Alas all that does is spread everything hopelessly across the page. Please any other ideas? Jenny |
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10-23-2005, 06:03
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| Civilians | Re: IE and a mind of its own :( "Adam Risser" <arisser@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1130025008.229742.168620@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > well 1000px might be to far, but by making it a fixed width, does it > stop the picture from going underneith the menu? That is what you are > looking for right? > No alas it did not  Jenny |
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10-23-2005, 18:02
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| Civilians | Re: IE and a mind of its own :( "Adam Risser" <arisser@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1130073514.792664.57520@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >I downloaded the files, changed .container's width to 1000px and it did > fix the problem in IE 6.0 . Sorry I help anymore, I dont know why it > wouldnt fix it for you. Hi Adam, If this dummy read slightly better, it would have worked for this dummy also I had put 1000% and not 1000px. and YES it did work, thank you thank you thank you Cheers Jenny |
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