Re: Tired of Google Groups archiving

Kim André Akerø wrote:
> pr wrote:
>
>> Newsgroups have been archived since 1995 by DejaNews, later
>> purchased by Google (2001?).
>
> Correct, they were acquired by Google in February 2001.

It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!


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Blinky the Shark wrote:

> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!

It was still in my killfile. His IP changes much less than his handle.

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Els wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>
> It was still in my killfile. His IP changes much less than his handle.

The server's XOVER database does not include fields that contain IP:

<paste XOVER exchange from telnet session with server>

xover 359048
224 359048 fields follow
359048 Tired of Google Groups archiving "pr" <pr@pr.com>
Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:26:20 -0600 <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
1732 17 Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.www.webmaster:359048

</paste>

Thus, to filter on a header that includes his IP requires use of XHDR
command:

<paste XHDR exchange from telnet session with server>

xhdr NNTP-Posting-Host <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
221 0 NNTP-Posting-Host header of article <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>.
<d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net> 151.118.0.21

</paste>

And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
request for XHDR headers. On a dialup, that's very time consuming and
not acceptable. So that's not an option for some of us.


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Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Els wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
>>
>> It was still in my killfile. His IP changes much less than his handle.
>
> The server's XOVER database does not include fields that contain IP:
>
> <paste XOVER exchange from telnet session with server>
>
> xover 359048
> 224 359048 fields follow
> 359048 Tired of Google Groups archiving "pr" <pr@pr.com>
> Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:26:20 -0600 <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> 1732 17 Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.www.webmaster:359048
>
> </paste>
>
> Thus, to filter on a header that includes his IP requires use of XHDR
> command:
>
> <paste XHDR exchange from telnet session with server>
>
> xhdr NNTP-Posting-Host <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> 221 0 NNTP-Posting-Host header of article <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>.
> <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net> 151.118.0.21
>
> </paste>
>
> And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
> request for XHDR headers. On a dialup, that's very time consuming and
> not acceptable. So that's not an option for some of us.

Okay.
I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).
My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?

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> > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It was still in my killfile. His IP changes much less than his handle.
> > > >>
> > > >> The server's XOVER database does not include fields that contain IP:
> > > >>
> > > >> <paste XOVER exchange from telnet session with server>
> > > >>
> > > >> xover 359048
> > > >> 224 359048 fields follow
> > > >> 359048 Tired of Google Groups archiving "pr" <pr@pr.com>
> > > >> Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:26:20 -0600 <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> > > >> 1732 17 Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.www.webmaster:359048
> > > >>
> > > >> </paste>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thus, to filter on a header that includes his IP requires use of XHDR
> > > >> command:
> > > >>
> > > >> <paste XHDR exchange from telnet session with server>
> > > >>
> > > >> xhdr NNTP-Posting-Host <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> > > >> 221 0 NNTP-Posting-Host header of article <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>.
> > > >> <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net> 151.118.0.21
> > > >>
> > > >> </paste>
> > > >>
> > > >> And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
> > > >> request for XHDR headers. On a dialup, that's very time consuming and
> > > >> not acceptable. So that's not an option for some of us.
> > > >
> > > > Okay.
> > > > I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
> > > > experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).
> > > > My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
> > > > headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?
> > >
> > > To anyone who's following this: IGNORE THAT REPLY. I answered about
> > > the XOVER command, not the XHDR command that Els asked about. See, instead,
> > > the CORRECTION I made in a reply to my own first reply to Els. Tnx.
> >
> > Hey, you are off topic.
>
> I can swear I am hearing four flies in this thread. One two three four. They are
> talking close to each other. Quiet, quiet, quiet, SHQUAM. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Its like Clint Eastwoods, they make their own justice, start talking about KKK killfies,
then change the topic, and forget. But, its OK. I can take it.

Hunting flies is the new game. Four little Clint Eastwoods down the toilet. Goodbye
little ones. Flush, flush, down the drain, down the toilet drain, merrily merrily merrily merrily
flush them down the drain. Four little big ones, I'll flush again you little Clint Eastwoods.
You'll find plenty of food in your new home.

> > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It was still in my killfile. His IP changes much less than his handle.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The server's XOVER database does not include fields that contain IP:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> <paste XOVER exchange from telnet session with server>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> xover 359048
> > > > >> 224 359048 fields follow
> > > > >> 359048 Tired of Google Groups archiving "pr" <pr@pr.com>
> > > > >> Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:26:20 -0600 <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> > > > >> 1732 17 Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.www.webmaster:359048
> > > > >>
> > > > >> </paste>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thus, to filter on a header that includes his IP requires use of XHDR
> > > > >> command:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> <paste XHDR exchange from telnet session with server>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> xhdr NNTP-Posting-Host <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> > > > >> 221 0 NNTP-Posting-Host header of article <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>.
> > > > >> <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net> 151.118.0.21
> > > > >>
> > > > >> </paste>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
> > > > >> request for XHDR headers. On a dialup, that's very time consuming and
> > > > >> not acceptable. So that's not an option for some of us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay.
> > > > > I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
> > > > > experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).
> > > > > My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
> > > > > headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?
> > > >
> > > > To anyone who's following this: IGNORE THAT REPLY. I answered about
> > > > the XOVER command, not the XHDR command that Els asked about. See, instead,
> > > > the CORRECTION I made in a reply to my own first reply to Els. Tnx.
> > >
> > > Hey, you are off topic.
> >
> > I can swear I am hearing four flies in this thread. One two three four. They are
> > talking close to each other. Quiet, quiet, quiet, SHQUAM. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
>
> Its like Clint Eastwoods, they make their own justice, start talking about KKK killfies,
> then change the topic, and forget. But, its OK. I can take it.
>
> Hunting flies is the new game. Four little Clint Eastwoods down the toilet. Goodbye
> little ones. Flush, flush, down the drain, down the toilet drain, merrily merrily merrily merrily
> flush them down the drain. Four little big ones, I'll flush again you little Clint Eastwoods.
> You'll find plenty of food in your new home.

Could you believe one day you are being thrown out of here, and you are the proven losers.

> > > > > >>>> It's the Google Crank, again. Killfile readjustment time!
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> It was still in my killfile. His IP changes much less than his handle.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The server's XOVER database does not include fields that contain IP:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> <paste XOVER exchange from telnet session with server>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> xover 359048
> > > > > >> 224 359048 fields follow
> > > > > >> 359048 Tired of Google Groups archiving "pr" <pr@pr.com>
> > > > > >> Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:26:20 -0600 <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> > > > > >> 1732 17 Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.www.webmaster:359048
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> </paste>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thus, to filter on a header that includes his IP requires use of XHDR
> > > > > >> command:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> <paste XHDR exchange from telnet session with server>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> xhdr NNTP-Posting-Host <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>
> > > > > >> 221 0 NNTP-Posting-Host header of article <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net>.
> > > > > >> <d%IZe.67$5u3.1344@news.uswest.net> 151.118.0.21
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> </paste>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> And this is "expensive" filtering, because it requires a separate
> > > > > >> request for XHDR headers. On a dialup, that's very time consuming and
> > > > > >> not acceptable. So that's not an option for some of us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay.
> > > > > > I have no idea about telnetting with a newsserver (my telnet
> > > > > > experience doesn't go further than changing a setting in my router).
> > > > > > My filter gui in Dialog lets me filter on anything that's in the
> > > > > > headers. I'm guessing "xhdr" is included in what I call "the headers"?
> > > > >
> > > > > To anyone who's following this: IGNORE THAT REPLY. I answered about
> > > > > the XOVER command, not the XHDR command that Els asked about. See, instead,
> > > > > the CORRECTION I made in a reply to my own first reply to Els. Tnx.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, you are off topic.
> > >
> > > I can swear I am hearing four flies in this thread. One two three four. They are
> > > talking close to each other. Quiet, quiet, quiet, SHQUAM. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
> >
> > Its like Clint Eastwoods, they make their own justice, start talking about KKK killfies,
> > then change the topic, and forget. But, its OK. I can take it.
> >
> > Hunting flies is the new game. Four little Clint Eastwoods down the toilet. Goodbye
> > little ones. Flush, flush, down the drain, down the toilet drain, merrily merrily merrily merrily
> > flush them down the drain. Four little big ones, I'll flush again you little Clint Eastwoods.
> > You'll find plenty of food in your new home.
>
> Could you believe one day you are being thrown out of here, and you are the proven losers.

Your little toyground, is being guarded by a policeman now. Don't ever play in this playground
big freaks.

Do you hear, me sirs.