A poor spammer complaining (funny stuff)

I have never contacted this company, nor have I opted in for anything. They
got my e-mail adress from a spam protected e-mail image on my website, and
now they don't understand why people don't like them. Here is the complaint
they have sent to all the people they are spamming. The feel so innocent
(ant that is fun and sad at the
same time):
-----

SPAMHAUS www.spamhaus.org

Here's a question, people. Why has The Viral Spiral been down? It's a
matter of cat and mouse. We have been selling data and Spamhaus feels that
we should not be doing that. Therefore Spamhaus has decided to chase my
company wherever we go and shut us down. My company has lost two domains.
www.theviralspiral.com & www.theviral.com and we are continually being
hunted. We are now located at www.theviralnews.com

Quote from Spamhaus: "[The Viral Spiral] For whatever reason, you have
sent spam to our spamtraps advertising your ability to deliver junk. It is
our objective to prevent you from doing that. If we have succeeded in that,
we are happy, whether you are two fellows with laptops or ten partners with
three floors in a datacenter" Spamhaus Project Team

Why aren't there traps for telemarketing and/or direct mail? Why must
email be policed from another country? Who are these people policing the
internet? Anyone could have added any email address to my form on my
website. Why am I being punished? Todd and I sell data. We have a great
track record of happy clients. Selling data is not illegal!

Quickie Marketing and The Viral Spiral do not send email to consumers. We
have tried many times to do so, yet we always run into problems with
servers. It is an ongoing process so basically, we are not up and running
so we can individually send campaigns. Our intentions are good and the
offers that we promote are excellent. We do not and have not promoted bad
material. In fact, we were somewhat responsible for the famous VIOXX
campaign.

We were attacked by a oproject team� called Spamhaus; a project of
people who track spammers and bring their servers down in cooperation with
many internet service providers. Don't get me wrong as I understand the
nuisance of spam (I have wrote many articles about it), yet I appreciate
good offers that are presented through email. What ever happened to the
first amendment of freedom of speech? In this case, we have no say.

It is irresponsible for any "project team" to shut down a company (big
or small) that makes money to eat and pay the mortgage without an expeident
way to contact the project team and rectify mistakes. We got listed on the
"Spamhaus Site" (www.spamhaus.org) because we have been selling data
with a company they claim are spammers. Todd and I (Quickie Marketing â?"
The Viral Spiral) are only selling advertising on our website and selling
optin data, which they (Spamhaus) consider is not owned by anyone else but
the consumers alone, yet the consumers did not read the privacy policies
where we have the right to resell their information. Is that our fault?

We are talking about electricity storage. Data placed on servers. Data
sold. No human signatures that can prove justification. It's not our
fault that we somehow "Spammed" some person who knows Spamhaus or had a
grudge and reported us. Anyone can hack into my system or add a "bad"
email. Why would someone do such a thing?

These allegations towards my company working with "Spammers" is
ludicrous. The Viral Spiral is and always has been a trusted name in this
industry for over three years and will continue to be. Spamhaus doesn't
care about anyone of us for whatever reason. They are selfishly campaigning
against companies despite false allegations and with hearsay.

This is my opinion, yet my opinion should count as a citizen of the United
States. The direct point is as simple as sliced bread. If someone has a
beef, they must confront the opponent and both parties must have full
contact information and have a right to speak. From my research, Spamhaus
is located in *Great Britain or that is where they are listed on Network
Solutions' WhoIs:
(http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index.jhtml)

Yet, the only way to contact them on their website is only through email,
after they send you an email once you contact them through a form.

I have spoken with many companies that are getting shut down by Spamhaus and
all of them have no way to contact them besides "one" email address.
It's like crying over spilled milk and they are laughing about it. Where
is the democracy in this situation? Where is the freedom of speech? Todd
and I only send a newsletter to what we know is/are internet marketers. Why
are we being hunted like a fox from the British? Is that irony? I want
justice. I want to be heard. I personally feel like this is a modern day
witch hunt. We have done nothing wrong.

The Viral Spiral would like to thank Marvin Jones Jr. Esq. for legal
guidance and counseling. If you have any legal questions or concerns please
contact Marvin Jones Jr. Esq at (310) 991-3688 or info@tpginternational.com
or marvinjesq (AIM).

Spamhaus' only contact information:

*Domain ID10906601-LROR

Domain Name:SPAMHAUS.ORG

Created On:01-Oct-1999 11:03:57 UTC

Last Updated On:08-Dec-2004 1131 UTC

Expiration Date:01-Oct-2005 11:03:57 UTC

Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)

Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED

Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED

Registrant ID:tuWAmwQ9ydXs0CSD

Registrant Name:Spamhaus Hostmaster

Registrant Organization:The Spamhaus Project LTD.

Registrant Street1:The Phoenix

Registrant Street2:Taggs Island

Registrant City:Hampton

Registrant State/Province:MIDDX

Registrant Postal Code:TW122HA

Registrant Country:GB

Registrant Phone:+44.8454585077

Registrant Email:abuse@pandora.spamhaus.org

Admin ID:tuFKFL5QkPUDPwkC

Admin Name:Spamhaus Hostmaster

Admin Organization:The Spamhaus Project LTD.

Admin Street1:The Phoenix

Admin Street2:Taggs Island

Admin City:Hampton

Admin State/Province:MIDDX

Admin Postal Code:TW122HA

Admin Country:GB

Admin Phone:+44.8454585077

Admin Email:abuse@pandora.spamhaus.org

Tech ID:tu7WpzzS429aZ6xO

Tech Name:Spamhaus Hostmaster

Tech Organization:The Spamhaus Project LTD.

Tech Street1:The Phoenix

Tech Street2:Taggs Island

Tech City:Hampton

Tech State/Province:MIDDX

Tech Postal Code:TW122HA

Tech Country:GB

Tech Phone:+44.8454585077

Tech Email:abuse@pandora.spamhaus.org

Name Server:UDNS1.ULTRADNS.NET

Name Server:UDNS2.ULTRADNS.NET

Name Server:NS8.SPAMHAUS.OR

--------------------------------------------------------------

The Viral Spiral 695 SW Millview Way Suite 106 Bend, OR 97702


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"Richard" <richard> wrote:

> I have never contacted this company, nor have I opted in for anything.
> They got my e-mail adress from a spam protected e-mail image on my
> website, and now they don't understand why people don't like them. Here is
> the complaint they have sent to all the people they are spamming. The feel
> so innocent (ant that is fun and sad at the
> same time):
> ...

But... but... you're including all the hyperlinks from their original
message. How can that encourage them to stop the abuse?

Anyway, a fun read so thanks for sharing.

Roy

Richard wrote:
> I have never contacted this company, nor have I opted in for
> anything. They got my e-mail adress from a spam protected e-mail
> image on my website, and now they don't understand why people don't
> like them. Here is the complaint they have sent to all the people
> they are spamming. The feel so innocent (ant that is fun and sad at
> the same time):
> -----
>
> SPAMHAUS www.spamhaus.org
>
> Here's a question, people. Why has The Viral Spiral been down? It's
> a matter of cat and mouse. We have been selling data and Spamhaus
> feels that we should not be doing that. Therefore Spamhaus has
> decided to chase my company wherever we go and shut us down. My
> company has lost two domains. www.theviralspiral.com &
> www.theviral.com and we are continually being hunted. We are now
> located at www.theviralnews.com
> Quote from Spamhaus: "[The Viral Spiral] For whatever reason, you
> have sent spam to our spamtraps advertising your ability to deliver
> junk. It is our objective to prevent you from doing that. If we have
> succeeded in that, we are happy, whether you are two fellows with
> laptops or ten partners with three floors in a datacenter" Spamhaus
> Project Team
> Why aren't there traps for telemarketing and/or direct mail? Why must
> email be policed from another country? Who are these people policing
> the internet? Anyone could have added any email address to my form
> on my website. Why am I being punished? Todd and I sell data. We
> have a great track record of happy clients. Selling data is not
> illegal!
> Quickie Marketing and The Viral Spiral do not send email to
> consumers. We have tried many times to do so, yet we always run into
> problems with servers. It is an ongoing process so basically, we
> are not up and running so we can individually send campaigns. Our
> intentions are good and the offers that we promote are excellent. We
> do not and have not promoted bad material. In fact, we were somewhat
> responsible for the famous VIOXX campaign.
>
> We were attacked by a oproject team� called Spamhaus; a project of
> people who track spammers and bring their servers down in cooperation
> with many internet service providers. Don't get me wrong as I
> understand the nuisance of spam (I have wrote many articles about
> it), yet I appreciate good offers that are presented through email. What
> ever happened to the first amendment of freedom of speech? In
> this case, we have no say.
> It is irresponsible for any "project team" to shut down a company (big
> or small) that makes money to eat and pay the mortgage without an
> expeident way to contact the project team and rectify mistakes. We
> got listed on the "Spamhaus Site" (www.spamhaus.org) because we have
> been selling data with a company they claim are spammers. Todd and I
> (Quickie
> Marketing â?" The Viral Spiral) are only selling advertising on our
> website and selling optin data, which they (Spamhaus) consider is not
> owned by anyone else but the consumers alone, yet the consumers did
> not read the privacy policies where we have the right to resell their
> information. Is that our fault?
> We are talking about electricity storage. Data placed on servers. Data
> sold. No human signatures that can prove justification. It's
> not our fault that we somehow "Spammed" some person who knows
> Spamhaus or had a grudge and reported us. Anyone can hack into my
> system or add a "bad" email. Why would someone do such a thing?
>
> These allegations towards my company working with "Spammers" is
> ludicrous. The Viral Spiral is and always has been a trusted name in
> this industry for over three years and will continue to be. Spamhaus
> doesn't care about anyone of us for whatever reason. They are
> selfishly campaigning against companies despite false allegations and
> with hearsay.
> This is my opinion, yet my opinion should count as a citizen of the
> United States. The direct point is as simple as sliced bread. If
> someone has a beef, they must confront the opponent and both parties
> must have full contact information and have a right to speak. From
> my research, Spamhaus is located in *Great Britain or that is where
> they are listed on Network Solutions' WhoIs:
> (http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index.jhtml)
>
> Yet, the only way to contact them on their website is only through
> email, after they send you an email once you contact them through a
> form.
> I have spoken with many companies that are getting shut down by
> Spamhaus and all of them have no way to contact them besides "one"
> email address. It's like crying over spilled milk and they are laughing
> about it. Where is the democracy in this situation? Where is the freedom
> of
> speech? Todd and I only send a newsletter to what we know is/are
> internet marketers. Why are we being hunted like a fox from the
> British? Is that irony? I want justice. I want to be heard. I
> personally feel like this is a modern day witch hunt. We have done
> nothing wrong.
> The Viral Spiral would like to thank Marvin Jones Jr. Esq. for legal
> guidance and counseling. If you have any legal questions or concerns
> please contact Marvin Jones Jr. Esq at (310) 991-3688 or
> info@tpginternational.com or marvinjesq (AIM).
>
> Spamhaus' only contact information:
>
> *Domain ID10906601-LROR
>
> Domain Name:SPAMHAUS.ORG
>
> Created On:01-Oct-1999 11:03:57 UTC
>
> Last Updated On:08-Dec-2004 1131 UTC
>
> Expiration Date:01-Oct-2005 11:03:57 UTC
>
> Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)
>
> Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
>
> Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
>
> Registrant ID:tuWAmwQ9ydXs0CSD
>
> Registrant Name:Spamhaus Hostmaster
>
> Registrant Organization:The Spamhaus Project LTD.
>
> Registrant Street1:The Phoenix
>
> Registrant Street2:Taggs Island
>
> Registrant City:Hampton
>
> Registrant State/Province:MIDDX
>
> Registrant Postal Code:TW122HA
>
> Registrant Country:GB
>
> Registrant Phone:+44.8454585077
>
> Registrant Email:abuse@pandora.spamhaus.org
>
> Admin ID:tuFKFL5QkPUDPwkC
>
> Admin Name:Spamhaus Hostmaster
>
> Admin Organization:The Spamhaus Project LTD.
>
> Admin Street1:The Phoenix
>
> Admin Street2:Taggs Island
>
> Admin City:Hampton
>
> Admin State/Province:MIDDX
>
> Admin Postal Code:TW122HA
>
> Admin Country:GB
>
> Admin Phone:+44.8454585077
>
> Admin Email:abuse@pandora.spamhaus.org
>
> Tech ID:tu7WpzzS429aZ6xO
>
> Tech Name:Spamhaus Hostmaster
>
> Tech Organization:The Spamhaus Project LTD.
>
> Tech Street1:The Phoenix
>
> Tech Street2:Taggs Island
>
> Tech City:Hampton
>
> Tech State/Province:MIDDX
>
> Tech Postal Code:TW122HA
>
> Tech Country:GB
>
> Tech Phone:+44.8454585077
>
> Tech Email:abuse@pandora.spamhaus.org
>
> Name Server:UDNS1.ULTRADNS.NET
>
> Name Server:UDNS2.ULTRADNS.NET
>
> Name Server:NS8.SPAMHAUS.OR
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The Viral Spiral 695 SW Millview Way Suite 106 Bend, OR 97702
>
>
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awww poor spammer!

Thusly, it was spoken by the voices from within Viper's head on
6/24/2005 12:43 PM:
> Richard wrote:
>
>>I have never contacted this company, nor have I opted in for
>>anything. They got my e-mail adress from a spam protected e-mail
>>image on my website, and now they don't understand why people don't
>>like them. Here is the complaint they have sent to all the people
>>they are spamming. The feel so innocent (ant that is fun and sad at
>>the same time):
>>-----
>>
<snip spanked spammer spam>
>
>
> awww poor spammer!
>
>
I'm not a drinker, but Mr. Linford is at the top of the very short list
of people who I would buy a pint.
--
Test, Jamie, Test.
Just remember: It's the shiny side out.

"TOASTEDspam.com" <google@toastedspam.com> wrote:

>I guess this qualifies as
>meta-stupid, or maybe über-stupid. *sheesh*

I kinda like "willfully stupid" myself.


--
Gary Woods O- K2AHC Public keys at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic, or get 0x1D64A93D via keyserver
fingerprint = E2 6F 50 93 7B C7 F3 CA 1F 8B 3C C0 B0 28 68 0B

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:55:09 -0700, Roger Bryant
<roger_bryant@spamblocked.com> wrote:

>Thusly, it was spoken by the voices from within Viper's head on
>6/24/2005 12:43 PM:
>> Richard wrote:
>>
>>>I have never contacted this company, nor have I opted in for
>>>anything. They got my e-mail adress from a spam protected e-mail
>>>image on my website, and now they don't understand why people don't
>>>like them. Here is the complaint they have sent to all the people
>>>they are spamming. The feel so innocent (ant that is fun and sad at
>>>the same time):
>>>-----
>>>
><snip spanked spammer spam>
>>
>>
>> awww poor spammer!
>>
>>
>I'm not a drinker, but Mr. Linford is at the top of the very short list
>of people who I would buy a pint.

He has a free case here should he ever visit.

William R. James