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Old 06-23-2005, 08:00   #1 (permalink)
ship
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Default How do I avoid spam filters - how fast can I send out emails?


Hi

We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers
when we market to our own legit customers!

I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast.
- Does anyone know what are the industry norms?
- How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number
before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?!

with thanks


Ship
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Old 06-23-2005, 08:00   #2 (permalink)
Andrew Heenan
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"ship" wrote ...
> We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers
> when we market to our own legit customers!
> I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast.
> - Does anyone know what are the industry norms?
> - How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number
> before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?!


They are only 'legit' if they have subscribed ... opted in to receive them.
And if they've opted in, they will be unlikely to have you blocked.

If you are sending 'by the hour' It's almost certainly spam.

If you send spam, many will trigger not just filters, but spam reports;
manual or robot. Once there's been enough reports, then all future mail will
be filtered straight to spam folders.

So even those who opted in will be denied a spammer's newletter, because of
the complaints.

Spam filters are getting better by the week - and there's so many, using so
many different technologies, that the best answer is the simplest.

Don't spam.
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Old 06-23-2005, 08:00   #3 (permalink)
Andrew Heenan
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"ship" <shiphen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119519036.121596.235080@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Hi
>
> We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers
> when we market to our own legit customers!
>
> I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast.
> - Does anyone know what are the industry norms?
> - How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number
> before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?!
>
> with thanks
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>



 
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:00   #4 (permalink)
Bertha
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On 23 Jun 2005 02:30:36 -0700, ship <shiphen@yahoo.com> muttered
something like:

> We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers
> when we market to our own legit customers!
>
> I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast.
> - Does anyone know what are the industry norms?
> - How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number
> before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?!


I'm not aware of any industry norms; it depends on the server
configuration. However, I'm sure the larger, older mailing lists send out
comparable volumes, so I doubt the volume is the issue. You'd need to be
more specific about the problem to get more specific answers--are your
messages going into spam folders and never being read? Are they being
bounced back with an error message (and if so, what message)? Does the
welcome message to subscribers include a reminder that they will need to
whitelist your mailing list to ensure it is not caught by bulk mail
filters?

-Bertha
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is its adherents. -- George Orwell, the Road to Wigan Pier
 
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Old 06-23-2005, 16:00   #5 (permalink)
Gandalf Parker
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"ship" <shiphen@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1119519036.121596.235080
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers
> when we market to our own legit customers!


Sorry. Ive run ISP servers including mailservers. I dont think this is a
problem of innocence. We always had alternatives available such as elists
or off-hour queues.

If you are overloading their server then do one of your own. Any old
computer in the closet will work.

Gandalf Parker
 
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Old 06-23-2005, 16:00   #6 (permalink)
bp
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ship wrote:
> Hi
>
> We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers
> when we market to our own legit customers!


If your customers want to be on your mailing lists, remind them when
they sign up for the list that they should whitelist you in their spam
filter.
 
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Old 06-23-2005, 20:00   #7 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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R. Totale wrote

> It was. The only difference between that and the piles of unsolicited
> advertising material the mailman brings daily are fewer dead trees for
> me to recycle, and that I get to pay for it rather than you. Happy
> joy for me, not.


You have to pay to dispose of paper junk mail.

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