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05-31-2005, 12:00
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| Civilians |  Splitting an ordered list Hi folks, Does anyone know how to split an ordered list in a cross-browser, specs complying way? eg. 1. Item 1 2. Item 2 3. Item 3 Some Paragraph text... 4. Item 4 5. Item 5 I know that I can do it with some deprecated markup, but if there is another way I would like to use it! Cheers, -- Dylan Parry http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and reference |
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05-31-2005, 12:00
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| Civilians | Re: Splitting an ordered list Dylan Parry wrote: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know how to split an ordered list in a cross-browser, specs > complying way? eg. > > 1. Item 1 > 2. Item 2 > 3. Item 3 > > Some Paragraph text... > > 4. Item 4 > 5. Item 5 > > I know that I can do it with some deprecated markup, but if there is > another way I would like to use it! Only if you don't mind if the paragraph is really part of the 3rd item: <ol> <li>Item 1</li> <li>Item 2</li> <li>Item 3 <div> <p> some paragraph text, marked up as paragraph </p> </div> </li> <li>Item 4</li> <li>Item 5</li> </ol> It's valid strict HTML, and works in Firefox and IE6 - haven't tried the rest, but I don't see why it wouldn't work in other browsers. -- Els http://locusmeus.com/ Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito. - Renato Russo - |
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05-31-2005, 12:00
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| Civilians | Re: Splitting an ordered list And lo, Dylan Parry didst speak in alt.www.webmaster: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know how to split an ordered list in a cross-browser, specs > complying way? eg. > > 1. Item 1 > 2. Item 2 > 3. Item 3 > > Some Paragraph text... > > 4. Item 4 > 5. Item 5 > > I know that I can do it with some deprecated markup, but if there is > another way I would like to use it! There is the "start" attribute which, as you say, is deprecated. It's replacement is the CSS counter-reset and counter-increment properties, which is not supported by MSIE. I'm afraid it's either one or the other in this case. My small personal campaign is to continue using the "start" attribute, even in otherwise fully validating XHTML documents. I do this because I believe the deprecation of this attribute was a mistake. The number corresponding to each item in an ordered list (and nested ordered list) is often an important part of the *meaning* of a document, and not it's "style". Oh, eventually I'll have to move away from it; but as long as it's supported by all browsers yet, I'll still be using it. Grey -- The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the pitfall corollory that nothing is ridiculous. - http://www.greywyvern.com/ringmaker - Orca Ringmaker: Host a web ring from your website! |
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05-31-2005, 16:00
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| Civilians | Re: Splitting an ordered list On Tue, 31 May 2005, Dylan Parry wrote: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know how to split an ordered list in a cross-browser, specs > complying way? eg. > > 1. Item 1 > 2. Item 2 > 3. Item 3 > > Some Paragraph text... > > 4. Item 4 > 5. Item 5 > > I know that I can do it with some deprecated markup, but if there is > another way I would like to use it! > > Cheers, Would it matter if newer browsers displayed it as this: : 1. Item 1 : 2. Item 2 : 3. Item 3 : : Some Paragraph text... : : 4. Item 4 : 5. Item 5 and older browsers displayed it as this: ?? : 1. Item 1 : 2. Item 2 : 3. Item 3 : 4. Item 4 : 5. Item 5 : : Some Paragraph text... With Firefox, I got something similar to the effect that you want by using positioning (which older browsers don't support): <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html><head><title>List test</title></head><body> <ol> <div style="position: absolute; top: 10"> <li>first item</li> <li>second item</li> <li>third item</li> </div> <div style="position: absolute; top: 200"> <li>fourth item</li> <li>fifth item</li> <li>sixth item</li> </div> </ol> <p style="position: absolute; top: 100">A paragraph of text that is not really part of the list but that needs to be displayed in the middle of the list.</p> </body></html> Of course, that has its own problems including an inability to adjust for font size. -- Can you Change: N O V A Halifax to N O V A Halifax  S C O T I A . S C O T I A .in 34 moves? Try http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/JSNSPuz.html (Requires Firefox or a browser with a compatable version of JavaScript) |
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05-31-2005, 16:00
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| Civilians | Re: Splitting an ordered list GreyWyvern wrote: > My small personal campaign is to continue using the "start" attribute, > even in otherwise fully validating XHTML documents. I do this because I > believe the deprecation of this attribute was a mistake. Agreed. Some options are: 1. Use the "start" attibute anyway and forget about validation; 2. Create your own DTD that includes "start"; Option 2 isn't difficult really. It's dead easy to add and remove elements and attributes to the HTML 4.0(1) and XHTML 1.0 DTDs. XHTML 1.1's DTD is somewhat more convoluted, but there is a "legacy" module which can be enabled with a simple one-line edit -- it includes the "start" attribute. In some larger projects I occasionally find the need for things like <NOBR> and <U> so end up writing my own DTD. 3. Switch to XHTML 2.0 -- OK, maybe this is a little premature, but although "start" is still gone, the latest draft of XHTML 2.0 brings back the "value" attribute on LI elements. -- Toby A Inkster, who just used "text/plain" and doesn't have to worry about this. Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact |
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05-31-2005, 20:00
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| Civilians | Re: Splitting an ordered list And lo, Charles Sweeney didst speak in alt.www.webmaster: > GreyWyvern wrote > >> My small personal campaign is to continue using the "start" attribute, >> even in otherwise fully validating XHTML documents. I do this >> because I believe the deprecation of this attribute was a mistake. > > Surely not! You mean they're not always right! I never said they were. But, like the UN, we support them and hope they make the right decisions, because they're the only thing standing between us and rampant entropy. Grey -- The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the pitfall corollory that nothing is ridiculous. - http://www.greywyvern.com/ringmaker - Orca Ringmaker: Host a web ring from your website! |
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05-31-2005, 20:00
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| Civilians | Re: Splitting an ordered list GreyWyvern wrote > And lo, Charles Sweeney didst speak in alt.www.webmaster: > >> GreyWyvern wrote >> >>> My small personal campaign is to continue using the "start" >>> attribute, >>> even in otherwise fully validating XHTML documents. I do this >>> because I believe the deprecation of this attribute was a mistake. >> >> Surely not! You mean they're not always right! > > I never said they were. But, like the UN, we support them and hope > they make the right decisions, because they're the only thing > standing between us and rampant entropy.  )-- Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com |
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