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Old 05-07-2005, 20:00   #1 (permalink)
Bacchus
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Default Looking for an estimate to build a Web Site

I am member of a local wine club. We have had a web site for several
years now. I started it years ago for just posting our monthly
newsletters. It has grown quite a bit.

http://www.edhwm.com

I am wondering what it would cost (for my own satisfaction and so
members can appreciate it more) to build such a web site from the
ground up.

Before you look at the page, and tell me how bad it, mixed fonts,
mixed navigation, crappy intro transition, etc. and then offer to
rework the site for a fee, let me say that YOU CAN and you can begin
earning the monthly fee I am getting now. More on that later.

Basically, what makes up the site is as follows and if you care to
humor me, estimate just from what is listed below. Just a ball park
figure would be nice.

1. Guest book
2. Chat room
3 A bulletin board
4. a web based photo album consisting of 367photos, scanned and
retouched and uploaded
5. a comment form
6 a membership form
7 dozens of web pages on wine recipes. (possibility to convert to a
msql database)
8 several years of monthly newsletters plus adding a new one every
month. (maybe also converting it over to a database)
9. several dozen web pages on instructions for home wine making
10 Links page update monthly
11 dozens of web pages on cooking with wine recipes
12 Equipment use web pages
13 dozens of web pages on tables and charts for making wine.
14 a wine glossary with several thousand wine terms still needing to
be cleaned up.
15 And once a year a Wine Grape availability page from some 60 local
vineyards with a msql driven back end
16. And of course some great graphics for the logo and banners

As you can see it is not a very big site, I bet a real good web
master could recreate it in a week in his spare time.

SO I am wondering what would something like this cost to make from the
ground up. I am not going to hold anyone to a figure. Also, if you
want to be the web master and maintain it at this point, you can do
that also. I can't find anyone in our club who wants to take it over.

I get paid via nice comments, like "the web site looks great".
I get paid in real money almost next to nothing, well, I actually get
nothing. But don't let that bother you, you too can invest a lot of
time into it and receive those great comments too! Hey, I personally
would kick you down a bottle of wine.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and maybe you got a little
chuckle out of it.


btw, this is me in the vineyard
http://edhwm.com/Gallery/misc2004/Helaman9

Thanks

 
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Old 05-07-2005, 20:00   #2 (permalink)
Jurgen Nijhuis
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Default Re: Looking for an estimate to build a Web Site

On Sat, 07 May 2005 2033 GMT, Bacchus <bacchusREMOVE@wowmail.com>
wrote:

>1. Guest book
>2. Chat room
>3 A bulletin board
>4. a web based photo album consisting of 367photos, scanned and
>retouched and uploaded
>5. a comment form
>6 a membership form
>7 dozens of web pages on wine recipes. (possibility to convert to a
>msql database)
>8 several years of monthly newsletters plus adding a new one every
>month. (maybe also converting it over to a database)
>9. several dozen web pages on instructions for home wine making
>10 Links page update monthly
>11 dozens of web pages on cooking with wine recipes
>12 Equipment use web pages
>13 dozens of web pages on tables and charts for making wine.
>14 a wine glossary with several thousand wine terms still needing to
>be cleaned up.
>15 And once a year a Wine Grape availability page from some 60 local
>vineyards with a msql driven back end
>16. And of course some great graphics for the logo and banners
>
>As you can see it is not a very big site, I bet a real good web
>master could recreate it in a week in his spare time.


Not a very big site??? Create it in a week in spare time??? What are
you thinking? This is a medium sized site with lots of pages, features
and scripts involved, and I wouldn't take it even into consideration
for less than 3000 euros.
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:00   #3 (permalink)
David Preston
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Default Re: Looking for an estimate to build a Web Site

robert blake wrote:
i;d suggest that he looks
> into a free content mgt system like Mambo. Rather than give me 4 or 5
> thousand pounds to do the site, he could take a few weeks and learn how
> mambo works (all in his spare time)....and then build it for nought.
>
>

The front page looks a bit Mambo already, with the 3 column layout. And
you could keep your existing Gallery, as there is a Mambo module to
incorporate it. You'll need PHP and mySQL available from your host, but
I've got a couple of Mambo sites where I'm paying as little as £20 a
year for hosting, so some of your time learning will be pretty much all
it costs. The learning curve is a bit steep initially, but you could
obviously handle it. (And there'd be help available here, I'm sure...)
Once you got it running, you'd probably find it less time-consuming to
maintain, though.

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Old 05-08-2005, 12:00   #4 (permalink)
robert blake
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Default Re: Looking for an estimate to build a Web Site

David Preston <dave@dbpreston.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in news:d5kjnu$5gn$1
@news7.svr.pol.co.uk:

> robert blake wrote:
> i;d suggest that he looks
>> into a free content mgt system like Mambo. Rather than give me 4 or 5
>> thousand pounds to do the site, he could take a few weeks and learn how
>> mambo works (all in his spare time)....and then build it for nought.
>>
>>

> The front page looks a bit Mambo already, with the 3 column layout. And
> you could keep your existing Gallery, as there is a Mambo module to
> incorporate it. You'll need PHP and mySQL available from your host, but
> I've got a couple of Mambo sites where I'm paying as little as £20 a
> year for hosting, so some of your time learning will be pretty much all
> it costs. The learning curve is a bit steep initially, but you could
> obviously handle it. (And there'd be help available here, I'm sure...)
> Once you got it running, you'd probably find it less time-consuming to
> maintain, though.



david, you'd be best served doing it yourself.

These types of hobby sites are very time consuming, and thus very expensive
amd takes ages to do.

If you've already got Mambo on a couple of the sites, why don't you do it
yourself?
 
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Old 05-08-2005, 16:00   #5 (permalink)
David Preston
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Default Re: Looking for an estimate to build a Web Site

robert blake wrote:
> David Preston <dave@dbpreston.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in news:d5kjnu$5gn$1
> @news7.svr.pol.co.uk:
>
>
>>robert blake wrote:
>> i;d suggest that he looks
>>
>>>into a free content mgt system like Mambo. Rather than give me 4 or 5
>>>thousand pounds to do the site, he could take a few weeks and learn how
>>>mambo works (all in his spare time)....and then build it for nought.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>The front page looks a bit Mambo already, with the 3 column layout. And
>>you could keep your existing Gallery, as there is a Mambo module to
>>incorporate it. You'll need PHP and mySQL available from your host, but
>>I've got a couple of Mambo sites where I'm paying as little as £20 a
>>year for hosting, so some of your time learning will be pretty much all
>>it costs. The learning curve is a bit steep initially, but you could
>>obviously handle it. (And there'd be help available here, I'm sure...)
>>Once you got it running, you'd probably find it less time-consuming to
>>maintain, though.

>
>
>
> david, you'd be best served doing it yourself.
>
> These types of hobby sites are very time consuming, and thus very expensive
> amd takes ages to do.
>
> If you've already got Mambo on a couple of the sites, why don't you do it
> yourself?


errr, coz I wasn't the OP.

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Old 05-09-2005, 00:00   #6 (permalink)
robert blake
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Default Re: Looking for an estimate to build a Web Site

David Preston <dave@dbpreston.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:d5lgbo$9r3$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk:

> robert blake wrote:
>> David Preston <dave@dbpreston.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:d5kjnu$5gn$1 @news7.svr.pol.co.uk:
>>
>>
>>>robert blake wrote:
>>> i;d suggest that he looks
>>>
>>>>into a free content mgt system like Mambo. Rather than give me 4 or
>>>>5 thousand pounds to do the site, he could take a few weeks and
>>>>learn how mambo works (all in his spare time)....and then build it
>>>>for nought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>The front page looks a bit Mambo already, with the 3 column layout.
>>>And you could keep your existing Gallery, as there is a Mambo module
>>>to incorporate it. You'll need PHP and mySQL available from your
>>>host, but I've got a couple of Mambo sites where I'm paying as little
>>>as £20 a year for hosting, so some of your time learning will be
>>>pretty much all it costs. The learning curve is a bit steep
>>>initially, but you could obviously handle it. (And there'd be help
>>>available here, I'm sure...) Once you got it running, you'd probably
>>>find it less time-consuming to maintain, though.

>>
>>
>>
>> david, you'd be best served doing it yourself.
>>
>> These types of hobby sites are very time consuming, and thus very
>> expensive amd takes ages to do.
>>
>> If you've already got Mambo on a couple of the sites, why don't you
>> do it yourself?

>
> errr, coz I wasn't the OP.



oops sorry, David.


 
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Old 05-09-2005, 16:00   #7 (permalink)
David Preston
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Default Re: Looking for an estimate to build a Web Site

robert blake wrote:

>
> oops sorry, David.
>
>

No problemo.

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