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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00   #1 (permalink)
John Bokma
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SpaceGirl wrote:

> John Bokma wrote:
>> SpaceGirl wrote:
>>
>>
>>>www.garbage.com

>>
>>
>> What's in a name:
>>
>> " We're sorry, but it appears that you do not
>> have the proper version of Marcromedia Flash installed.
>>
>> Please go to Macromedia.com and download the latest version of the
>> Flash player."

>
> It's a band web site. Multimedia. Wont work without Flash, and no
> plans to make it work either.


That's dumb. Not that hard to put some basic info in plain HTML. If I
want multimedia, I put a CD in the drive. If I want to read about the
latest CD I don't want to wait for 30 seconds for some flash loading
with music snippets through what I am currently listening.

Moreover, what me amazes me time after time is that so many so called
fan sites are often way more professional than the so called official
band sites. A "good" example is System of a Down's website. Although
that one has recently had an update (not much better though).

> Too much video/animation/branding.


Too much yada yada.

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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00   #2 (permalink)
John Bokma
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SpaceGirl wrote:

> We're still tweaking it, but the decision was made by the client that it
> would be a 1024x768 site. Not my choice!


But you didn't explain your client that 1024 x 768 is a bit eh big?


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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00   #3 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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SpaceGirl wrote

> True, and gig dates/news will be available via subhuman.net


Morning delicious.

Why not make subhuman.net a very basic simple HTML site (useable by all
browsers known to man) and offer a conventional HTML link to it from
Garbage.com?

Dare I say (you won't like this) a "text only" version? You've got all
the bells and whistles on Garbage.com so you would be doing yourself a
favour (creativity, time, maintenance) to make subhuman text only.
Otherwise subhuman would be like a near copy of garbage.com, which is
pointless, but to make it a real alternative, could provide value.

Then there's all your PDA users, and mobile phone surfers, students,
young people etc wanting news or dates on their phone, they will love
you for very quick clear delivery of that.

Some will say that maintaining two sites is a waste, but you have
already indicated that you will be doing that, so there is no loss in
that regard.

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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00   #4 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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Els wrote

> This page gives an error:


With friends like Els, who needs enemies!?

Your supposed to tell her that it's a beautiful piece of art, which it is!

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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00   #5 (permalink)
SpaceGirl
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Charles Sweeney wrote:
> SpaceGirl wrote
>
>
>>True, and gig dates/news will be available via subhuman.net

>
>
> Morning delicious.







>
> Why not make subhuman.net a very basic simple HTML site (useable by all
> browsers known to man) and offer a conventional HTML link to it from
> Garbage.com?


Perhaps - the way subhuman.net works lends itself to text-only.

I wont do crosslinks tho, we need that site to be independant.

> Dare I say (you won't like this) a "text only" version? You've got all
> the bells and whistles on Garbage.com so you would be doing yourself a
> favour (creativity, time, maintenance) to make subhuman text only.
> Otherwise subhuman would be like a near copy of garbage.com, which is
> pointless, but to make it a real alternative, could provide value.


subhuman.net is an alternative in that it works without scripting &
Flash (at least the new version, which is out in a week).

> Then there's all your PDA users, and mobile phone surfers, students,
> young people etc wanting news or dates on their phone, they will love
> you for very quick clear delivery of that.


Subhuman.net already partially works on PDAs. I have the tagboard (for
example) as a fave on my XDA, which I check on the train.

> Some will say that maintaining two sites is a waste, but you have
> already indicated that you will be doing that, so there is no loss in
> that regard.


Running two sites is not an issue.
 
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00   #6 (permalink)
John Bokma
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SpaceGirl wrote:

> I wont do crosslinks tho, we need that site to be independant.


welcome to the www

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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00   #7 (permalink)
Norman L. DeForest
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On 21 Apr 2005, John Bokma wrote:

> Norman L. DeForest wrote:
>
> >
> > On 21 Apr 2005, Charles Sweeney wrote:
> >
> >> SpaceGirl wrote
> >>
> >> > True, and gig dates/news will be available via subhuman.net
> >>
> >> Morning delicious.
> >>
> >> Why not make subhuman.net a very basic simple HTML site (useable by

> all
> >> browsers known to man) and offer a conventional HTML link to it from
> >> Garbage.com?
> >>
> >> Dare I say (you won't like this) a "text only" version? You've got

> all
> >> the bells and whistles on Garbage.com so you would be doing yourself

> a
> >> favour (creativity, time, maintenance) to make subhuman text only.

[snip]
> >> Some will say that maintaining two sites is a waste, but you have
> >> already indicated that you will be doing that, so there is no loss in
> >> that regard.

> >
> > It could also be argued that blind people would be more likely to be
> > interested in audio entertainment than others (who would be more
> > likely to be interested in television and motion pictures and other
> > visual entertainment) so they would have a greater need to be able to
> > access the information on band websites.
> >
> > It could even become a public-relations thing as well, promoting

> access
> > awareness. "Garbage cares about our disabled fans."

>
> Uhm... how does a blind person navigate on a flash only site?


As far as I know, they can't. That was the whole point about having
an alternative text-friendly (it doesn't have to be text-*only*) site.

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