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Old 04-20-2005, 00:00   #1 (permalink)
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Default Search engine submission - multiple domains, same site

Dear Group,

I have multiple domains, which all pretty much point to the same site
(albiet sometimes different pages).

Can I submit all the domains to search engines, one after another - or just
the primary main domain?

Will the crawler robots detect the redirect (same ISP) and block my
requests?

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Old 04-20-2005, 00:00   #2 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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Default Re: Search engine submission - multiple domains, same site

wrote

> Dear Group,
>
> I have multiple domains, which all pretty much point to the same site
> (albiet sometimes different pages).
>
> Can I submit all the domains to search engines, one after another - or
> just the primary main domain?
>
> Will the crawler robots detect the redirect (same ISP) and block my
> requests?


Quite a lot of qualification needed with regard to your points, but if
Google (for example) see a site redirecting, they will drop it like a
hot spud.

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Old 04-20-2005, 00:00   #3 (permalink)
Disco Octopus
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Default Re: Search engine submission - multiple domains, same site

Charles Sweeney wrote :
> wrote
>
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> I have multiple domains, which all pretty much point to the same site
>> (albiet sometimes different pages).
>>
>> Can I submit all the domains to search engines, one after another - or
>> just the primary main domain?
>>
>> Will the crawler robots detect the redirect (same ISP) and block my
>> requests?

>
> Quite a lot of qualification needed with regard to your points, but if
> Google (for example) see a site redirecting, they will drop it like a
> hot spud.


Redirecting, however, would be different to pointing to the same
pages(files).
eg. if one.example.com redirected to two.example.com, Google may spit
it out.

However, if one.example.com was 'pointing' to files on
/usr/web/root/index.php and two.example.com also pointed to
/usr/web/root/index.php on the same file system, then google will see
that they are two different sites.

However(again), does google look at things like...
if ip address of one.example.com is the same as ip address of
two.example.com, and the pages are identicle, does it spit it out?

I seem to remember that this was once told to me. I seem to recall
this being discussed here with the question of which ever domain name
was indexed first will be the one that google looks at. all others will
be ignored. Not sure if its the case. Anyone know?

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Old 04-20-2005, 00:00   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Search engine submission - multiple domains, same site

Thanks for the responses guys.

Better to be safe than sorry, and not submit. Google will pick sites up from
links anyway.


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Old 04-20-2005, 04:00   #5 (permalink)
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:53:22 GMT, "Disco Octopus"
<discooctopus@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Charles Sweeney wrote :
>> wrote
>>
>>> Dear Group,
>>>
>>> I have multiple domains, which all pretty much point to the same site
>>> (albiet sometimes different pages).
>>>
>>> Can I submit all the domains to search engines, one after another - or
>>> just the primary main domain?
>>>
>>> Will the crawler robots detect the redirect (same ISP) and block my
>>> requests?

>>
>> Quite a lot of qualification needed with regard to your points, but if
>> Google (for example) see a site redirecting, they will drop it like a
>> hot spud.

>
>Redirecting, however, would be different to pointing to the same
>pages(files).
>eg. if one.example.com redirected to two.example.com, Google may spit
>it out.
>
>However, if one.example.com was 'pointing' to files on
>/usr/web/root/index.php and two.example.com also pointed to
>/usr/web/root/index.php on the same file system, then google will see
>that they are two different sites.
>
>However(again), does google look at things like...
> if ip address of one.example.com is the same as ip address of
>two.example.com, and the pages are identicle, does it spit it out?
>
>I seem to remember that this was once told to me. I seem to recall
>this being discussed here with the question of which ever domain name
>was indexed first will be the one that google looks at. all others will
>be ignored. Not sure if its the case. Anyone know?


Loosely speaking, yes. Charles is wrong to say Google will dump any
redirect as there are ways and ways of doing it.

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Old 04-20-2005, 08:00   #6 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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Default Re: Search engine submission - multiple domains, same site

Disco Octopus wrote

> Charles Sweeney wrote :
>> wrote
>>
>>> Dear Group,
>>>
>>> I have multiple domains, which all pretty much point to the same

site
>>> (albiet sometimes different pages).
>>>
>>> Can I submit all the domains to search engines, one after another -

or
>>> just the primary main domain?
>>>
>>> Will the crawler robots detect the redirect (same ISP) and block my
>>> requests?

>>
>> Quite a lot of qualification needed with regard to your points, but

if
>> Google (for example) see a site redirecting, they will drop it like a
>> hot spud.

>
> Redirecting, however, would be different to pointing to the same
> pages(files).
> eg. if one.example.com redirected to two.example.com, Google may spit
> it out.
>
> However, if one.example.com was 'pointing' to files on
> /usr/web/root/index.php and two.example.com also pointed to
> /usr/web/root/index.php on the same file system, then google will see
> that they are two different sites.
>
> However(again), does google look at things like...
> if ip address of one.example.com is the same as ip address of
> two.example.com, and the pages are identicle, does it spit it out?
>
> I seem to remember that this was once told to me. I seem to recall
> this being discussed here with the question of which ever domain name
> was indexed first will be the one that google looks at. all others

will
> be ignored. Not sure if its the case. Anyone know?


Like I said, more than a little qualification was needed. However, I
would be very wary of having different URLs pointing to the same page.
Google say here:

http://www.google.com/intl/en/webmas...uidelines.html

"Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially
duplicate content"

In your example above, one.example.com and two.example.com would be
subdomains with duplicate content.

As you say, Google may or may not see that as different sites, but
personally I wouldn't do it.

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Old 04-20-2005, 08:00   #7 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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Default Re: Search engine submission - multiple domains, same site

Big Bill wrote

> Loosely speaking, yes. Charles is wrong to say Google will dump any
> redirect as there are ways and ways of doing it.


Google say:

"Don't employ cloaking or sneaky redirects"

Personally I would not advise people to go against their guidelines.

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