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Old 03-23-2005, 16:00   #1 (permalink)
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Default Warnings About Rent A Coder - rentacoder.com warning

Warning - if you as a programmer currently use or plan to use www.rentacoder.com
in the future, be forewarned you will be experiencing:



1) A very low income for anyone located in the U.S. You will be competing with
programmers from around the world where $100 is like $1000 for them.



- First of all I'd like to let everyone know that Rentacoder is really a slave
shop where you spend hours on end working on for meagre blessings.



- Here is an example for you starving U.S. workers: Do you need a qualified
coder for a little salary? I am a professional programmer engineer with 6 years
of work experience. Salaries and prices are so low in my country, that I am
happy to work for as low as $7/hour. My main fields of expertise are Visual
FoxPro, C++, PHP (my resume is here). If you think you could give me a one-time
job, you could hire me through the service Rent A Coder.



2) You will be at the mercy of a very harsh web site creater, operator, webmaster,
and "support" person named Ian Ippolito. Examples of his harshness are spelled
out below. Do you want to be on the recieving end of such attitudes from the
owner?



- You could get a message such as: Your account has been frozen. If you are
a Rent a Coder user This could be due to unauthorized behavior or a pending
payment verification that you never completed. If the latter is the case, then
please contact your facilitator to complete it and get reactivated.



- This "unauthorized" behavior may be anything from understandable lack of
payment to simply sending a bug report to rentacoder or questioning biased
arbitration. Be forewarned if you send them a complaint they will bite back
like a scorpion.



- I recieved this account cancellation message simply because I confronted
the site owner about his harsh attitude. I contacted the rentacoder.com site
owner about functionality issues and the result was my account was cancelled.



- Excerpt from a past rentacoder dispute - words from Ian Ippolito : "1) I
will be reporting you to the VISA (or Mastercard) Internet Fraud Division with
your tracked email address and IP Address (both of which have been re-confirmed
again by the headers in this email you just sent me!). Every time we've done
this, people have lost their credit card accounts, and I look forward to making
you lose yours.



- Do you really want to be working with someone who "looks forward" to a person's
demise? Stop and think before doing anything with rentacoder.com - the site
"owner" shows absolutely no restraint when it comes to answering support questions
and problems.



Additionally:



- In trying to utilize rentacoder.com the hardest thing is requirements refinement.
Figuring out what the customer, or buyer wants is very time consuming. Many
buyers start out abstract, then steal the programmers' suggestions and repost
a more detailed request.



- Programmers frequently realize it's more work than what they thought and
just give up and never respond to the client again.



- From Ian Ippolito regarding the rentacoder.com website startup: "There was
quite a backlash at the time as well. I received lots of angry e-mails from
U.S. coders sold on the same idea I originally had ..."



- Do not EVER send complaints to rentacoder - you will be zapped and terminated
by the rentacoder high command: Ian Ippolito. You will be "labeled" with "inappropriate
behavior." Ian Ippoloito lacks understanding, patience and tolerance, period.



- Instead of any apology from rentacoder what you will get is a terminated
account - for no reason other than Ian Ippolito's foolish pride and arrogance.



- I don't think rentacoder.com hurts anyone, but the Indian guy's going to
win the bid every time. It's amazing how our industry was destroyed so quickly.
We can't even make a couple of bucks on the side anyomre. It's like suddenly
everyone became super-computer literate overnight, and now the guys at Wal-Mart
can do the same work we do.



- Big Bad Bob wrote: looked at the rentacoder.com site just for fun. There
are many jobs for ery little pay. One in particular titled "Repair Software":
Solve the memory leaks and high cpu usage problems in a multi-threaded Delphi
application - maximum bid accepted $100. By the time a programmer finished
with this little project, they would be working for pennies per hour.



- It is a buyer's market only. It is hurting the entire global software economy
and causing a perpetuating false belief that software should be fast accurate
and very cheap.



- Be forewarned that if you disagree with Ian Ippolito you will be insulted
and kicked off his system.



- You can be sure that if you find Ian Ippolito defending the complaints and
information in this article, it will be out of his arrogant nature, period.



-=-
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Old 03-23-2005, 16:00   #2 (permalink)
Charles Sweeney
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Default Re: Warnings About Rent A Coder - rentacoder.com warning

Anonymous wrote

> - Here is an example for you starving U.S. workers


Racist as well as an ignorant bastard.

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Old 03-23-2005, 20:00   #3 (permalink)
John Bokma
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Karim wrote:

> Works well if you are a buyer and want work done for pennies. But the
> quality of work you receive stinks.


Based on what?

I live in Mexico, most people make 1/8 here compared to people in the US.
So if they ask 1/7th of the price does that mean their work stinks?

Moreover, the sad thing is: if they need a computer they have to pay a
price that is 1.15 times the price one pays in the US (so roughly 9.2x
more, sometimes more).

And, somehow, I have the idea that the stuff one can buy here is *made* for
the Mexican market, e.g. different quality.

> Consider bids from people who have
> high ratings only.


Me, me me :-D (I have high rates)

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Old 03-23-2005, 20:00   #4 (permalink)
John Bokma
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Default Re: Warnings About Rent A Coder - rentacoder.com warning

Anonymous wrote:

> questioning biased arbitration. Be forewarned if you send them a
> complaint they will bite back like a scorpion.


Scorpions don't bite or at least it doesn't hurt. On the other hand they
either have a nice sting, or a nice pinch. (Often: when their pinch is weak
their sting is nasty and vice versa, so watch out for scorpions with little
weak pinchers :-D)

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Old 03-23-2005, 20:00   #5 (permalink)
John Bokma
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Steve Sobol wrote:

> Quite possibly. But I've checked out Rentacoder, and it sucks donkey
> nads for people working here in the US. You WILL be competing with
> people from overseas who are willing to bid a small fraction of what
> anyone in the US will bid for the jobs described.


Yup, the same people who have to work like crazy to even be able to buy a
computer, let alone the software and the internet connection.

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Old 03-23-2005, 20:00   #6 (permalink)
John Bokma
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Steve Sobol wrote:

> I'm just saying that it's pointless to use the site if you're trying
> to get work and you're in this part of the world, because if you bid
> what you would normally bid for a job, you won't get the work. And if
> you bid low enough to get the work, you'll end up losing money on the
> deal.


Yup, I looked at 3 of those sites ages ago, and decided that it was not
worth my time. I already have people emailing me who think I dance naked
for 3 pesos while programing.

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Old 03-23-2005, 20:00   #7 (permalink)
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Steve Sobol wrote:

> Obviously s/h/it has an agenda.


You mean toilet paper?

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