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Old 03-24-2005, 00:00   #22 (permalink)
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Default Re: Warnings About Rent A Coder - rentacoder.com warning



"John Bokma" <postmaster@castleamber.com> wrote in message
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> Steve Sobol wrote:
>
>> Obviously s/h/it has an agenda.

>
> You mean toilet paper?
>



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Old 03-24-2005, 12:00   #23 (permalink)
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Default Re: Warnings About Rent A Coder - rentacoder.com warning

On 23 Mar 2005 23:16:01 GMT, John Bokma wrote:

> Anonymous wrote:
>
>questioning biased arbitration. Be forewarned if you send them a
>complaint they will bite back like a scorpion.


I didn't have a problem with them. Your money stays in escrow and you only
pay if you're happy with the work received. Otherwise you get your money
back. Otherwise it's a bad business model because buyers won't use their
business again and go somewhere else.



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Old 03-25-2005, 12:00   #24 (permalink)
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Once upon a time, far far away Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
spluttered

>Charles Sweeney wrote:
>> Anonymous wrote
>>
>>
>>>- Here is an example for you starving U.S. workers

>>
>>
>> Racist as well as an ignorant bastard.

>
>Quite possibly. But I've checked out Rentacoder, and it sucks donkey nads for
>people working here in the US. You WILL be competing with people from overseas
>who are willing to bid a small fraction of what anyone in the US will bid for
>the jobs described. I didn't have the problems Anonymoose did, but that's
>because I saw who I was competing with, realized I didn't have a snowball's
>chance in hell competing against a programmer in India who was willing to work
>for 10-20% of what I would have asked for the same job, and didn't bother going
>back to the site.


How ironic. Globalisation, the great Capitalist good (as furthered by
Thatcher, Reagan and the Bushs) comes around to deprive the very
people who naively support it.

Or perhaps "you" like being unemployed because manufacturing has moved
to China, call centers to India, and programming to the
Third World in general?

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Old 03-26-2005, 20:00   #25 (permalink)
John Bokma
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Default Re: Warnings About Rent A Coder - rentacoder.com warning

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> I'd like to say the people that use them aren't really the sorts of
> clients you would want anyway,


Agreed, I looked at a few of those sites, and some jobs have already
something like: need a [... big project ...], budget: 100 USD.

[ snip ]

The biggest problem is, it can't be changed in a few years. Here, people
make 8 times less money. If they got US salaries, everything they export
will be around 8 times more expensive. And that means that the US and other
countries just look for another country that's willing to export at their
rates.

Even sadder, I suspect that all luxery here is just cheap garbage that
couldn't be sold in other countries.

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Old 03-26-2005, 20:00   #26 (permalink)
Steve Sobol
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John Bokma wrote:

> Agreed, I looked at a few of those sites, and some jobs have already
> something like: need a [... big project ...], budget: 100 USD.


Those are the people that I want to point to http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/ -
although I have come down in price to match the market I'm in now (I've only
been in this area for less than two years).

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Old 03-26-2005, 20:00   #27 (permalink)
John Bokma
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Steve Sobol wrote:

> John Bokma wrote:
>
>> Agreed, I looked at a few of those sites, and some jobs have already
>> something like: need a [... big project ...], budget: 100 USD.

>
> Those are the people that I want to point to
> http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/ -


If that's you I recommend: don't. Believe me, most of those customers are a
major pain in the lower back. And while you are trying to get your money
from number x and working like crazy for x+1, x+2, x+3, you have no time to
find normal customers.

> although I have come down in price to
> match the market I'm in now (I've only been in this area for less than
> two years)


Better: find customers that match your price, or adjust your skill set

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Old 03-26-2005, 20:00   #28 (permalink)
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John Bokma wrote:
>>Those are the people that I want to point to
>>http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/ -

>
> If that's you I recommend: don't. Believe me, most of those customers are a
> major pain in the lower back. And while you are trying to get your money
> from number x and working like crazy for x+1, x+2, x+3, you have no time to
> find normal customers.


Did you actually visit that site?

I don't accept clients who want me to do tons of work and basically pay just
about nothing for that work.

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