link farm websites

I haven't seen them myself, but I guess webmasters can buy programs that
automatically e-mail websites with similar keywords to arrange link
exchanges? I run a games website that might somewhere in it's hundreds of
pages contain the word "nightvision", and today I got this e-mail that
sounds like a one off genuine request on the face of it - but in reality is
probably one of these link share tools - check it out below. If you got to
the root domain, you can see the site basically is one huge billboard with
no content apart from hundreds of adverts or links about nighvision. I
wonder if these people actually make any money out of this sort of thing.

"I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...
and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I think
your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of night
vision
and would be a great resource for my visitors as it deals with some great
aspects of night vision that I'd like to give my visitors more information
about.

In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Night Vision HQ Resource
Directory at
http://www.nightvisionhq.com/ghostreconnightvision

Is that OK with you?

Can I ask a favor? Will you give me a link back on your site? I'd really
appreciate you returning the favor.

Thanks and feel free to drop me an email if you'd like to chat more about
this.

Best wishes,
"


--
Rocky
www.jointopscentral.com | www.ghostrecon.net | www.agr-s.com |
www.tactical-elite.net

__

Once upon a time, far far away "Rocky" <Rocky@GhostRecon.net>
spluttered

>I haven't seen them myself, but I guess webmasters can buy programs that
>automatically e-mail websites with similar keywords to arrange link
>exchanges? I run a games website that might somewhere in it's hundreds of
>pages contain the word "nightvision", and today I got this e-mail that
>sounds like a one off genuine request on the face of it - but in reality is
>probably one of these link share tools - check it out below. If you got to
>the root domain, you can see the site basically is one huge billboard with
>no content apart from hundreds of adverts or links about nighvision. I
>wonder if these people actually make any money out of this sort of thing.
>
>"I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...
>and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I think
>your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of night
>vision
>and would be a great resource for my visitors as it deals with some great
>aspects of night vision that I'd like to give my visitors more information
>about.
>
>In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Night Vision HQ Resource
>Directory at
>http://www.nightvisionhq.com/ghostreconnightvision
>
>Is that OK with you?
>
>Can I ask a favor? Will you give me a link back on your site? I'd really
>appreciate you returning the favor.
>
>Thanks and feel free to drop me an email if you'd like to chat more about
>this.
>
>Best wishes,
>"

That is a standard email. We receive dozens of these for every
imaginable topic (as one might guess). They are all worded the same,
and all scams.

Matt

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the 'English' speaking world.

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/slang.htm

"Matt Probert" <comments@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
news:4220944a.1347247@news.ntlworld.com...
> Once upon a time, far far away "Rocky" <Rocky@GhostRecon.net>
> spluttered
>
> >I haven't seen them myself, but I guess webmasters can buy programs that
> >automatically e-mail websites with similar keywords to arrange link
> >exchanges? I run a games website that might somewhere in it's hundreds of
> >pages contain the word "nightvision", and today I got this e-mail that
> >sounds like a one off genuine request on the face of it - but in reality
is
> >probably one of these link share tools - check it out below. If you got
to
> >the root domain, you can see the site basically is one huge billboard
with
> >no content apart from hundreds of adverts or links about nighvision. I
> >wonder if these people actually make any money out of this sort of thing.
> >
> >"I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...
> >and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I
think
> >your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of night
> >vision
> >and would be a great resource for my visitors as it deals with some great
> >aspects of night vision that I'd like to give my visitors more
information
> >about.
> >
> >In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Night Vision HQ Resource
> >Directory at
> >http://www.nightvisionhq.com/ghostreconnightvision
> >
> >Is that OK with you?
> >
> >Can I ask a favor? Will you give me a link back on your site? I'd really
> >appreciate you returning the favor.
> >
> >Thanks and feel free to drop me an email if you'd like to chat more about
> >this.
> >
> >Best wishes,
> >"
>
> That is a standard email. We receive dozens of these for every
> imaginable topic (as one might guess). They are all worded the same,
> and all scams.

There not scams ... there just aimed at increasing the PR of various
websites ... of course they are effectively useless and linking to such a
site can get you blocked by a minimum of 6 months for such an action - take
a look at SEOchat.com for more ...

G
pr - pagerank

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:44:58 -0000 Rocky wrote:

> I haven't seen them myself, but I guess webmasters can buy programs
> that
> automatically e-mail websites with similar keywords to arrange link
> exchanges? I run a games website that might somewhere in it's hundreds
> of
> pages contain the word "nightvision", and today I got this e-mail that
> sounds like a one off genuine request on the face of it - but in
> reality is
> probably one of these link share tools - check it out below. If you got
> to
> the root domain, you can see the site basically is one huge billboard
> with
> no content apart from hundreds of adverts or links about nighvision. I
> wonder if these people actually make any money out of this sort of
> thing.

It's just a sniffer thing looking to find the most common words in a site.
Then they do a search on ebay looking for similar items and link to them.
Of course, this particular site was only created on the 19th of feb 2005 so
most likely, this post could be considered a bit of spam.
Or somebody went to the trouble of registering the domain name hoping you'd
want the domain name as well.
Either way, the e-mail thing is nothing new and is fairly standard generated
baloney.

Just for fun, put up a single page, include a certain word or two and repeat
those words 50 times.
See how long it is before you get another e-mail from the same outfit.

Once upon a time, far far away "Gerry W - for email use my name at
dergal 0 com" <sales@exleaseit.co.uk> spluttered

>
>"Matt Probert" <comments@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
>news:4220944a.1347247@news.ntlworld.com...
>> Once upon a time, far far away "Rocky" <Rocky@GhostRecon.net>
>> spluttered
>>
>> >I haven't seen them myself, but I guess webmasters can buy programs that
>> >automatically e-mail websites with similar keywords to arrange link
>> >exchanges? I run a games website that might somewhere in it's hundreds of
>> >pages contain the word "nightvision", and today I got this e-mail that
>> >sounds like a one off genuine request on the face of it - but in reality
>is
>> >probably one of these link share tools - check it out below. If you got
>to
>> >the root domain, you can see the site basically is one huge billboard
>with
>> >no content apart from hundreds of adverts or links about nighvision. I
>> >wonder if these people actually make any money out of this sort of thing.
>> >
>> >"I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...
>> >and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I
>think
>> >your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of night
>> >vision
>> >and would be a great resource for my visitors as it deals with some great
>> >aspects of night vision that I'd like to give my visitors more
>information
>> >about.
>> >
>> >In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Night Vision HQ Resource
>> >Directory at
>> >http://www.nightvisionhq.com/ghostreconnightvision
>> >
>> >Is that OK with you?
>> >
>> >Can I ask a favor? Will you give me a link back on your site? I'd really
>> >appreciate you returning the favor.
>> >
>> >Thanks and feel free to drop me an email if you'd like to chat more about
>> >this.
>> >
>> >Best wishes,
>> >"
>>
>> That is a standard email. We receive dozens of these for every
>> imaginable topic (as one might guess). They are all worded the same,
>> and all scams.
>
>There not scams ... there just aimed at increasing the PR of various
>websites ... of course they are effectively useless and linking to such a
>site can get you blocked by a minimum of 6 months for such an action - take
>a look at SEOchat.com for more ...
>
>G
>pr - pagerank

I guess you mean "they're not scams", I consider them to be such. They
are false adverts which mislead the recipient into providing a text
link to their site. Certainly not a reputable, co-operative business
practice!

Matt

--
Over 16,000 searchable slang definitions from around
the 'English' speaking world.

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/slang.htm

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Rocky wrote:

> I haven't seen them myself, but I guess webmasters can buy programs that
> automatically e-mail websites with similar keywords to arrange link
> exchanges? I run a games website that might somewhere in it's hundreds of
> pages contain the word "nightvision", and today I got this e-mail that
> sounds like a one off genuine request on the face of it - but in reality is
> probably one of these link share tools - check it out below. If you got to
> the root domain, you can see the site basically is one huge billboard with
> no content apart from hundreds of adverts or links about nighvision. I
> wonder if these people actually make any money out of this sort of thing.
>
> "I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...
> and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I think
> your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of night
> vision
> and would be a great resource for my visitors as it deals with some great
> aspects of night vision that I'd like to give my visitors more information
> about.
>
> In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Night Vision HQ Resource
> Directory at
> http://www.nightvisionhq.com/ghostreconnightvision
>
> Is that OK with you?
>
> Can I ask a favor? Will you give me a link back on your site? I'd really
> appreciate you returning the favor.
>
> Thanks and feel free to drop me an email if you'd like to chat more about
> this.
>
> Best wishes,
> "

I consider it to be spam unless,

1. they have some relevant comments about specific content on my site that
makes them like the page they are referring to (quoting some of the
content is a bonus), and

2. they do *not* require a reciprocal link or any sort of registration
for the link to my site, and

3. an examination of their site shows they are linking to mine with
an accurate description of the page linked to and the link is
appropriate for that site.

One recent message that meets none of those criteria so is pure spam in my
books ("-foo-" added to their URLs and address to make them invalid for
search-engines):

: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 2157 -0700 (MST)
: from: "Bill Morrison" <webmaster@adult-si-foo-tes-directory.com>
: To: <arjftebhcfugzy@[snip]>
: Subject: Regarding www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/newsgroups.html
:
: Hello,
: We are creating an Adult Directory at http://www.adult-sites-dir-foo-ectory.com and we would like to include
: your website http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/newsgroups.html to our Society category - http://www.adult-sites-direc-foo-tory.com/Society/.
: Please submit your site's information here: http://www.adult-sites-di-foo-rector...iety/form.html.
:
: Thank you,
: Bill Morrison,
: webmaster@ad-foo-ult-sit-foo-es-dire-foo-ctory.com-foo-.
: ::text version::

1. Rather than being specific to my page, they have generic comments that
indicate that they have not even seen the page under consideration.
It definitely is *not* an "adult" page. It's a list of support groups
for those with medical, physical, mental, or emotional problems.
(The only mention of "sex" on my page are links to support newsgroups
for those who have suffered from sexual abuse.)

2. They require registration on my part and a reciprocal link before they
will consider including any link to my site. None of the catagories
provided in their form match the theme of that page.

3. They have no link to my site -- and, in fact, had virtually no links
at all when I had a look at their /Society/ page. (They may have had
some suckers sign up since I looked at their site.)

In the past, I have received requests for reciprocal links for pages on
sites I have nothing to do with -- except that the sites quoted one or
more of my Usenet posts and included my email address on the page (clearly
indicated on the page as being the address of the person quoted and *not*
the webmaster's address). It's funnier when it's one of my anti-spam
rants that's being quoted.

--
Norman De Forest http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/Profile.html
af380@chebucto.ns.ca [=||=] (A Speech Friendly Site)
"It's MyParty and I'll delete it if I want to."
-- Trafton Ziegler in alt.comp.virus, on Sunday, February 10, 2002.

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 1545 -0400 Norman L. DeForest wrote:


> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Rocky wrote:

>> I haven't seen them myself, but I guess webmasters can buy programs
>> that
>> automatically e-mail websites with similar keywords to arrange link
>> exchanges? I run a games website that might somewhere in it's hundreds
>> of
>> pages contain the word "nightvision", and today I got this e-mail that
>> sounds like a one off genuine request on the face of it - but in
>> reality is
>> probably one of these link share tools - check it out below. If you
>> got to
>> the root domain, you can see the site basically is one huge billboard
>> with
>> no content apart from hundreds of adverts or links about nighvision. I
>> wonder if these people actually make any money out of this sort of
>> thing.

>> "I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...
>> and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I
>> think
>> your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of
>> night
>> vision
>> and would be a great resource for my visitors as it deals with some
>> great
>> aspects of night vision that I'd like to give my visitors more
>> information
>> about.

>> In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Night Vision HQ
>> Resource
>> Directory at
>> http://www.nightvisionhq.com/ghostreconnightvision

>> Is that OK with you?

>> Can I ask a favor? Will you give me a link back on your site? I'd
>> really
>> appreciate you returning the favor.

>> Thanks and feel free to drop me an email if you'd like to chat more
>> about
>> this.

>> Best wishes,
>> "

> I consider it to be spam unless,

> 1. they have some relevant comments about specific content on my site
> that
> makes them like the page they are referring to (quoting some of the
> content is a bonus), and

> 2. they do *not* require a reciprocal link or any sort of registration
> for the link to my site, and

> 3. an examination of their site shows they are linking to mine with
> an accurate description of the page linked to and the link is
> appropriate for that site.

> One recent message that meets none of those criteria so is pure spam in
> my
> books ("-foo-" added to their URLs and address to make them invalid for
> search-engines):

:: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 2157 -0700 (MST)
:: from: "Bill Morrison" <webmaster@adult-si-foo-tes-directory.com>
:: To: <arjftebhcfugzy@[snip]>
:: Subject: Regarding www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/newsgroups.html

:: Hello,
:: We are creating an Adult Directory at
:: http://www.adult-sites-dir-foo-ectory.com and we would like to include
:: your website http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/newsgroups.html to our
:: Society category - http://www.adult-sites-direc-foo-tory.com/Society/.
:: Please submit your site's information here:
:: http://www.adult-sites-di-foo-rector...iety/form.html.

:: Thank you,
:: Bill Morrison,
:: webmaster@ad-foo-ult-sit-foo-es-dire-foo-ctory.com-foo-.
:: ::text version::

> 1. Rather than being specific to my page, they have generic comments
> that
> indicate that they have not even seen the page under consideration.
> It definitely is *not* an "adult" page. It's a list of support
> groups
> for those with medical, physical, mental, or emotional problems.
> (The only mention of "sex" on my page are links to support
> newsgroups
> for those who have suffered from sexual abuse.)

> 2. They require registration on my part and a reciprocal link before
> they
> will consider including any link to my site. None of the catagories
> provided in their form match the theme of that page.

> 3. They have no link to my site -- and, in fact, had virtually no links
> at all when I had a look at their /Society/ page. (They may have
> had
> some suckers sign up since I looked at their site.)

> In the past, I have received requests for reciprocal links for pages on
> sites I have nothing to do with -- except that the sites quoted one or
> more of my Usenet posts and included my email address on the page
> (clearly
> indicated on the page as being the address of the person quoted and
> *not*
> the webmaster's address). It's funnier when it's one of my anti-spam
> rants that's being quoted.

Obviously spam.
Why do they want to know what the content is if they've already seen it?
Bill Morrison?
Wasn't he with the "Doors"?