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Old 02-04-2005, 16:00   #1 (permalink)
Cryofax
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Default Using Included Content

Perhaps included content doesn't work exactly the way I thought it would...

I have a web page with a table area that I have used the web component
"include content" in. The idea is someone from outside can FTP into a
directory on my website, update a file (with Microsoft word, or whatever)
then the web page will show the updated content in that table cell.

This is to allow someone to change a little area on the main page with web
site announcements without giving them full access to the web site, just ftp
access to the one directory with the news items.

I do this, and it does include the news page. Then I FTP in and make changes
to it but the changes don't show up on the main page when I reload it. Just
the old included content. If I check the files they are in fact changed in
the directory, yet the main page does not pick that up.

So am I wrong in thinking a web page "regrabs" the included content whenever
its loaded? Is there some way to achieve what I'm trying to do?

- Cryo


 
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Old 02-12-2005, 08:00   #2 (permalink)
Martin Chantler
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Default Re: Using Included Content

Hi,

I am still a newbie at FP, but what I can figure out Included content is
only updated if you edit it in FP and then it changes any pages with that
content in it. So you can't have people changing a file externally and
seeing the results.

If you want to display a page in a cell and have it updated as soon as the
file changes, try using an inline frame linked to the file that you want the
other person to update.

All the best,
Martin.


"Cryofax" <ThrowPoopt@YourFace.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps included content doesn't work exactly the way I thought it
> would...
>
> I have a web page with a table area that I have used the web component
> "include content" in. The idea is someone from outside can FTP into a
> directory on my website, update a file (with Microsoft word, or whatever)
> then the web page will show the updated content in that table cell.
>
> This is to allow someone to change a little area on the main page with web
> site announcements without giving them full access to the web site, just
> ftp access to the one directory with the news items.
>
> I do this, and it does include the news page. Then I FTP in and make
> changes to it but the changes don't show up on the main page when I reload
> it. Just the old included content. If I check the files they are in fact
> changed in the directory, yet the main page does not pick that up.
>
> So am I wrong in thinking a web page "regrabs" the included content
> whenever its loaded? Is there some way to achieve what I'm trying to do?
>
> - Cryo
>



 
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Old 02-14-2005, 00:00   #3 (permalink)
Mr. Analogy
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Default Re: Using Included Content

If MainPage "includes" subPage, then if you change subPage, those
changes are reflected in MainPage ONLY when you do a refresh within FP.
I.e., this happens BEFORE you publish your pages.

Essentially, FP does a MERGE when it Recalculates the web or when it
publishes. It replaces the INCLUDE page with the contents of that page.


So, your pages, which have already been published to the server, are
static. Changing SubPage on the server will have NO effect on MainPage.

 
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:00   #4 (permalink)
Cryofax
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Default Re: Using Included Content

Thanks for the replies. I figured out FrontPage's include command is only
performed at the time you publish the page (which is lame), so I just used a
simple PHP command to include the content and it is updated "on the fly" so
my users can change things and it gets updated.

- Cryo



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> If MainPage "includes" subPage, then if you change subPage, those
> changes are reflected in MainPage ONLY when you do a refresh within FP.
> I.e., this happens BEFORE you publish your pages.
>
> Essentially, FP does a MERGE when it Recalculates the web or when it
> publishes. It replaces the INCLUDE page with the contents of that page.
>
>
> So, your pages, which have already been published to the server, are
> static. Changing SubPage on the server will have NO effect on MainPage.
>



 
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