Re: Bush Supporters...

Viper wrote:
> C A Upsdell wrote:
>
>> Actually, just after Bush 'won' the 2000 election, one of his ardent
>> supporters gleefully said much the same thing to me: "the USA is not
>> a democracy; it's a republic!"
>
> Well duh... it is so of course the person would say that...
> http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html

Saying "the USA is not a democracy; it's a republic!" is much like saying
"a monkey isn't a brown animal; it's a mammal!" (hint: a monkey is both.)

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"Toby Inkster" <usenet200410@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.10.30.22.55.53.669110@tobyinkster.co .uk...
> Viper wrote:
>> C A Upsdell wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, just after Bush 'won' the 2000 election, one of his ardent
>>> supporters gleefully said much the same thing to me: "the USA is not
>>> a democracy; it's a republic!"
>>
>> Well duh... it is so of course the person would say that...
>> http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html
>
> Saying "the USA is not a democracy; it's a republic!" is much like saying
> "a monkey isn't a brown animal; it's a mammal!" (hint: a monkey is both.)

Not all republics are democracies. Check the dictionary.

C A Upsdell wrote:
> Toby Inkster wrote:
>> Viper wrote:
>>> C A Upsdell wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, just after Bush 'won' the 2000 election, one of his ardent
>>>> supporters gleefully said much the same thing to me: "the USA is not
>>>> a democracy; it's a republic!"
>>>
>>> Well duh... it is so of course the person would say that...
>>> http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html
>>
>> Saying "the USA is not a democracy; it's a republic!" is much like saying
>> "a monkey isn't a brown animal; it's a mammal!" (hint: a monkey is both.)
>
> Not all republics are democracies.

Never said they were. Just like I never said that all brown animals are
mammals.

There are certainly brown animals that are not mammals -- e.g. the kiwi,
and several species of snake. There are also mammals that are not brown --
e.g. the zebra and the dolphin.

However, a monkey is both brown and a mammal.

There are certainly republics that are not democracies. There have been
democracies that were not republics (ancient Greece springs to mind) but
those are quite impractical.

However, the USA is both a democracy and a republic.

> Check the dictionary.

Why? I am already well aware of their respective definitions.

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In alt.www.webmaster Toby Inkster said:

> a monkey is both brown and a mammal.

black monkeys are fish

> the USA is both a democracy and a republic.

and a fish

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004, brucie wrote:

> In alt.www.webmaster Toby Inkster said:
>
> > a monkey is both brown and a mammal.
>
> black monkeys are fish
>
> > the USA is both a democracy and a republic.
>
> and a fish

The same way as the capybara is a fish (according to the Catholic church)
or the same way that a horse may be legally argued to be a bird (Regina
vs. Ojibway)?

References:

Capybara meat
http://www.rebsig.com/capybara/capymeat.html
Capybara
http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/en.../capybara.html

R. v. Ojibway
http://www.tamerlane.ca/library/case..._v_ojibway.htm
An Unusual Perjury Case
http://www.hosteny.com/funcases/byrnes.html
UCC Cite References for Art. 9 Problems
http://www.krahmer.net/cites9.htm

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brucie wrote:
> In alt.www.webmaster Toby Inkster said:
>
>
>> a monkey is both brown and a mammal.
>
>
> black monkeys are fish
>
>
>>the USA is both a democracy and a republic.
>
>
> and a fish
>

I think that this is possibly the most helpful comment on the topic so far.


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