Re: FTP client

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:48:29 +0100 Toby Inkster
<usenet200410@tobyinkster.co.uk> broke off from drinking a cup of tea
at to write:

>(Mine used rsync to upload the files rather than FTP though. Matt, do you
>*really* use *FTP* for the Probert Encycopaedia?! Seriously, have a look
>at rsync!)
>

Ar ha:

"rsync uses the "rsync algorithm" which provides a very fast method
for bringing remote files into sync. It does this by sending just the
differences in the files across the link, without requiring that both
sets of files are present at one of the ends of the link beforehand."

I see where you're coming from, Toby. Just transfer the differences.
Problem is the primary feature of the encyclopaedia is it's internal
linking. When we do a build, we do a complete rebuild (all 2500+
source files), there could be a lot of differences between old and new
files. For me, simple FTP is a straightforward and reliable solution.

Matt

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:48:29 +0100 Toby Inkster
<usenet200410@tobyinkster.co.uk> broke off from drinking a cup of tea
at to write:

>(Mine used rsync to upload the files rather than FTP though. Matt, do you
>*really* use *FTP* for the Probert Encycopaedia?! Seriously, have a look
>at rsync!)

I do, I shall.

The transfer is very straight forward: Just 20 gzipped tar files (I
have an unreliable connection so I don't like to transfer a single
large file) sent to a remote directory, from whence a script
un-compresses and un-tars them and then WAITS for me to personally
check the transfer has been successful before I copy the files to
their final resting place.

I've encountered too many unreliabilities with "technology" to trust
it.

Matt

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If your encyclopaedia doesn't list "widget glass", you're reading the wrong encyclopaedia.
The Probert Encyclopaedia. Its not the same.
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com

Karim wrote:

> You're arguing that your method of writing arcane scripts is faster and
> more reliable that doing drag and drops in an FTP GUI program. This is even
> against common sense.

It is perfect sense.

Once the script has been written (perhaps taking 5 minutes) it can simply
be clicked on every time the site needs to be synchronised.

I certainly had a script to upload my site (back when it was hosted
externally). It made things much easier and quicker to upload.

(Mine used rsync to upload the files rather than FTP though. Matt, do you
*really* use *FTP* for the Probert Encycopaedia?! Seriously, have a look
at rsync!)

I have a script run nightly from cron at work to download our website's
log file (using FTP).

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Matt Probert wrote:

> I see where you're coming from, Toby. Just transfer the differences.
> Problem is the primary feature of the encyclopaedia is it's internal
> linking. When we do a build, we do a complete rebuild (all 2500+
> source files), there could be a lot of differences between old and new
> files. For me, simple FTP is a straightforward and reliable solution.

It is *very* smart at spotting the differences though.

Whatsmore, it also compresses and encrypts the connection, which are two
other advantages over FTP.

I use Rsync over FTP whenever possible.

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