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Old 07-23-2004, 15:04   #1 (permalink)
Michael
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Default FrontPage uploading at 28.8 baud, On a DSL line????


When saving a web page down in the lower right corner I see a prompt
that says something about FrontPage 2002 is saving at 28.8 baud. Where
does this come from? I have been on DSL for several years and I have FP
set up on a new P4 that is 4 months old. I removed the modem to free up
rescources, there is nothing running at 28.8 in my house.
Is this some old FP code that has never been updated in 4 years?
Michael


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Old 07-23-2004, 15:04   #2 (permalink)
Virgil
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Default Re: FrontPage uploading at 28.8 baud, On a DSL line????


This number shows the time you would need to upload the page(s) if you would
use a modem with that speed.
Virgil

"Michael" <gailey@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>
> When saving a web page down in the lower right corner I see a prompt
> that says something about FrontPage 2002 is saving at 28.8 baud. Where
> does this come from? I have been on DSL for several years and I have FP
> set up on a new P4 that is 4 months old. I removed the modem to free up
> rescources, there is nothing running at 28.8 in my house.
> Is this some old FP code that has never been updated in 4 years?
> Michael
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Michael Gailey
> Artistic CNC Mill, Router and Engraver Programming
> 3D modeling for Product Design and Development
> http://www.microsystemsgeorgia.com/toc.htm
>
>






 
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Old 07-23-2004, 15:05   #3 (permalink)
John
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Default Re: FrontPage uploading at 28.8 baud, On a DSL line????

That feature is also in FP2000 which I use. That is a measure of how long
it will take a user viewing the page you are creating to download the page
in their browser if they are connected to the net at that speed.

Let's say you see "60 seconds over 28.8". That means it will take a user
looking at that page on a 28.8k dial-up modem connection 60 seconds to fully
DL that page and all the parts of the page like images, etc. They might see
parts of it before the full DL is complete depending on how their browser
handles the display of the web page.

In FP2000 (and I suspect FP2002), if you right-click on that number, you can
also change it to DL times for that page at 14.4, 28.8, 56.6, ISDN, T1, and
T3 connection speeds.

Nowadays, most people are on some form of high-speed line. I would
recommend checking the 56.6 setting or the ISDN when you are developing
pages/sites. If they are under 10 seconds, you're users will be fine and
not experience a wait for pages to download.

These numbers are important from a usability standpoint. The general rule
of thumb is that all pages should be loading in no more than 10 seconds
regardless of the speed of the user's connection. The goal, by the way, is
sub-second response which to the user will look like an instant reply from
the system. The absolute max is 20 seconds.

Most users are on the web to accomplish something whether it's to get a
stock quote or play a game. Usability studies done for years have come up
with the 10 sec benchmark. After the 10 second mark, the user's mind is not
focused on the task anymore. They start asking "Why is this taking so long
?!?" and they start forming a negative opinion of your site. Think about
the last time you had to wait for a long page DL. The 20 sec max is when
the user will basically move on to another site and give up completely.

John


"Michael" <gailey@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>
> When saving a web page down in the lower right corner I see a prompt
> that says something about FrontPage 2002 is saving at 28.8 baud. Where
> does this come from? I have been on DSL for several years and I have FP
> set up on a new P4 that is 4 months old. I removed the modem to free up
> rescources, there is nothing running at 28.8 in my house.
> Is this some old FP code that has never been updated in 4 years?
> Michael
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Michael Gailey
> Artistic CNC Mill, Router and Engraver Programming
> 3D modeling for Product Design and Development
> http://www.microsystemsgeorgia.com/toc.htm
>
>



 
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Old 07-23-2004, 15:05   #4 (permalink)
Michael
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Default Re: FrontPage uploading at 28.8 baud, On a DSL line????



John wrote:

> That feature is also in FP2000 which I use. That is a measure of how long
> it will take a user viewing the page you are creating to download the page
> in their browser if they are connected to the net at that speed.
>
> Let's say you see "60 seconds over 28.8". That means it will take a user
> looking at that page on a 28.8k dial-up modem connection 60 seconds to fully
> DL that page and all the parts of the page like images, etc. They might see
> parts of it before the full DL is complete depending on how their browser
> handles the display of the web page.
>
> In FP2000 (and I suspect FP2002), if you right-click on that number, you can
> also change it to DL times for that page at 14.4, 28.8, 56.6, ISDN, T1, and
> T3 connection speeds.
>
> Nowadays, most people are on some form of high-speed line. I would
> recommend checking the 56.6 setting or the ISDN when you are developing
> pages/sites. If they are under 10 seconds, you're users will be fine and
> not experience a wait for pages to download.
>
> These numbers are important from a usability standpoint. The general rule
> of thumb is that all pages should be loading in no more than 10 seconds
> regardless of the speed of the user's connection. The goal, by the way, is
> sub-second response which to the user will look like an instant reply from
> the system. The absolute max is 20 seconds.
>
> Most users are on the web to accomplish something whether it's to get a
> stock quote or play a game. Usability studies done for years have come up
> with the 10 sec benchmark. After the 10 second mark, the user's mind is not
> focused on the task anymore. They start asking "Why is this taking so long
> ?!?" and they start forming a negative opinion of your site. Think about
> the last time you had to wait for a long page DL. The 20 sec max is when
> the user will basically move on to another site and give up completely.
>
> John
>
>
> "Michael" <gailey@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:BEghc.2060$mc.1549@news02.roc.ny...
>
>> When saving a web page down in the lower right corner I see a prompt
>>that says something about FrontPage 2002 is saving at 28.8 baud. Where
>>does this come from? I have been on DSL for several years and I have FP
>>set up on a new P4 that is 4 months old. I removed the modem to free up
>>rescources, there is nothing running at 28.8 in my house.
>> Is this some old FP code that has never been updated in 4 years?
>>Michael
>>



Thanks for explaining what that 28.8 message is about!
Michael

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