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| View Poll Results: SUBMACHINE GUNS | |||
| MAC 10 | | 0 | 0% |
| THOMPSON | | 10 | 41.67% |
| H&K MP5 | | 11 | 45.83% |
| H&K MP7 | | 1 | 4.17% |
| MADSEN | | 0 | 0% |
| BERETTA M12 | | 0 | 0% |
| Type 05 | | 0 | 0% |
| PP-2000 | | 2 | 8.33% |
| SCORPION VZ-61 | | 0 | 0% |
| WALTER MPL | | 0 | 0% |
| Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| UN TIPO DIFICIL ![]() | IS A POLL WITH A ONE WINNER.THE OTHERS CAN BE GOOD CHOICES(ONLY CHOICES) MY ELECTION IS THE MP5 MAC 10 ![]() Data for MAC M10 Caliber .45ACP, 9x19mm Luger/Para (.380ACP a.k.a. 9x17mm Short for M-11) Weight 2,84 kg (1.59 kg M-11) Lenght 269 mm (548 mm with open stock) (248/460 mm for M11) Rate of fire 1100 rounds per minute (1600 rpm for MAC-11 in .380) Magazine capacity 30 , 32 rounds Effective range 25 meters Thompson submachineguns ![]() ![]() Caliber .45ACP . Weight, empty 4.78 kg Lenght 811 mm Barrel lenght 267 mm Rate of fire 700 rpm Magazine capacity 20 or 30 rounds box ("stick") magazines and 50 or 100 rounds drums same as M1921 20 or 30 rds box Effective range 50 meters BERETTA M12 ![]() Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para Weight: 3.2 kg Lenght (stock closed/open): 418 / 660 mm Barrel lenght: 200 mm Rate of fire: 550 rounds per minute Magazine capacity: 20 , 32 or 40 cartridges Effective range: 200 meters H&K MP5 ![]() MP-5A2MP-9x19mm Parabellum (also .40S&W and 10mm Auto) Weight, empty2.54 kg Length680 mm490 / Barrel length225 mm Rate of fire800 rounds per minute Magazines15 and 30 rounds H&K MP7 ![]() Caliber: 4.6mm proprietary (4.6x30mm) Weight: 1.5 kg empty Lenght (stock closed/open): 340 / 540 mm Barrel lenght: 180 mm Rate of fire: 950 rounds per minute Magazine capacity: 20 or 40 rounds Effective range: 200 meters Type 05 5.8mm ![]() Type 05JS Caliber 5.8x21mm DAP92-5.89x19mm DAP92-9 (9mm Luger/Para) Weight 2.2 kg empty2.1 kg empty Length 500 mm450 mm Barrel length n/an/a Rate of fire n/an/a Magazine capacity 50 rounds30 rounds Effective range 150-200 m100-150 m MADSEN ![]() Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para Weight: 3.17 kg empty Length (stock closed/open): 530 / 800 mm Barrel length: 200 mm Rate of fire: 500 - 550 rounds per minute Magazine capacity: 32 rounds Effective range: 100 meters PP-2000 submachine gun ![]() Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para Weight: ~ 1.5 kg Length (stock closed/open): 300 / 507 mm Barrel length: 182 mm Rate of fire: ~ 600 rounds per minute Magazine capacity: 20 or 40 rounds Effective range: 50-100 meters SCORPION VZ-61 ![]() Caliber: 7.65x17mm (.32ACP) in vz.61; also 9x18mm Makarov in vz.82 and 9x17mm (.380ACP) in vz.83 Weight: 1.28 kg without magazine Lenght (stock closed/open): 270 / 517 mm Barrel lenght: 115 mm Rate of fire: ca. 850 rounds per minute Magazine capacity: 10 or 20 rounds Effective range: 25 meters WALTER MPL ![]() Chamber: 9 mm Luger Weight unloaded: 3.0 kg Length: 746 / 462 mm Barrel length: 260 mm Rate of Fire: 550 rounds/min Effective range: 200 m Capacity: 32 rounds
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| unrepentant grunt ![]() | Ok I had to go with the MP5 however the Madsen and Thompson are very Good SMG's also.
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| Enlisted ![]() | I of course chose the MP 5 as I said on the other thread but I did not see an UZI there at all. It would have recieved my second vote. A very fun weapon to have qualified with. I consider the MAC 10 to be a drug dealer's .38 special and not of use by any service (to my knowledge).For me it doesn't count. I also wondered if anyone had as much fun as I did firing the M-3 grease gun. What a mule that was but fun none the less!!! ![]() |
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| K-9 Unit ![]() | I went with MP5, although I love the Thompson (ditto's on the M3). What about the MP40 and Uzi? And why was the Scorpion included (you can barely call what it shoots "ammo")? But it does look like fun. Like the MP5-PDW, anyone got a pic of that?
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| K-9 Unit ![]() | Hey, I couldn't reply in the assault rifle poll with this so I'll do it here. Could you also do a "the best battle rifle".... And don't forget the M1 for all the old farts ![]()
__________________ "The legislator, being unable to appeal to force or to reason.... Must resort to an authority of a different order, capabable of constraining without violence and persuading without convicincing.... This is what has, in all ages, compelled the fathers of nations to have recourse to. " "Divine Intervention" ~J. J. Rousseau |
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| Enlisted Warrior ![]() | Oh, can 'o' worms! MP7A1 = PDW not SMG! Should Have been split. Best WW2 SMG and Best Post War SMG Where's the UMP? WW2 Thompson, M3, Sten, MP40/38, PPSh41and Owen. Post War MP5, Mac10, Sterling, Skorpion, UMP, UZI and Beretta M12. I was taught that to be SMG the weapon required a pistol type round and to be fired from the sholder if it doesn't fit in there its a 'machine pistol'. Last edited by thephattum; 03-18-2006 at 01:57. |
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| Junior Officer ![]() | Quote:
I carried an M-3 during Desert Storm - haha, it was fun to shoot! I considered it a good anti-aircraft gun b/c you could be shooting it straight but by the end the thing was pulling up to the sky. All us track mechanics that were recovery ops carried the thing.
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