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| Bad kitty...bad kitty...shame! ![]() | Apparently 50 states have God mentioned in their constitutions. Verified by: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...stitutions.htm Quote:
Also, while I was poking around, I came across this, on some states that discriminate against atheists. Imagine that. Quote:
Wooohooooooo. Go Texas!!! Tell me again how our forefathers wanted separation of God from state matters?
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Separation of state and church is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson in a letter, a private letter - not having anything to do with his part in drawing up the Declaration of Independence or any further contact with the government. The only reason we ever heard it is because the person he wrote to had saved it and it became part of his legacy simply because he had a legacy. This is what I have heard and read; I cannot prove it. If anyone has chapter and verse that can nail this down, please post it here. I will try and find it - your help will be appreciated!
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| Icing Queen ![]() | I believe that his intention wasn't that religion had no place in the government, but that the government should not interfere with the way we celebrate our beliefs. As in some Muslim countries, everyone must be Muslim or be killed. We can be Catholic or Protestant, Jewish, etc. or even Muslim...
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The Constitution of the United States Article VI, Section 3: “...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...” Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, May 5, 1817 "I had believed that [Connecticut was] the last retreat of monkish darkness, bigotry, and abhorrence of those advances of the mind which had carried the other States a century ahead of them. ... I join you, therefore, in sincere congratulations that this den of the priesthood is at length broken up, and that a Protestant Popedom is no longer to disgrace the American history and character. If by religion we are to understand sectarian dogmas, in which no two of them agree, then your exclamation on that hypothesis is just, 'that this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.' Jefferson in Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823 "One day the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in the United States will tear down the artificial scaffolding of Christianity. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Jefferson's Autobiography “[A]n amendment was proposed by inserting ‘Jesus Christ,’ so that [the preamble] should read ‘A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion’; the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination” Thomas Jefferson to Jeremiah Moore, August 14, 1800 "The clergy, by getting themselves established by law, & ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil and religious rights of man. They are still so in many countries & even in some of these United States. Even in 1783, we doubted the stability of our recent measures for reducing them to the footing of other useful callings. It now appears that our means were effectual." James Madison, introducing the Bill of Rights at the First Federal Congress, Congressional Register, June 8, 1789: "[The] civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner or on any pretext infringed." James Madison, Detached Memoranda, believed to have been written circa 1817. "The establishment of the chaplainship to Congress is a palpable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional principles: The tenets of the chaplains elected [by the majority] shut the door of worship against the members whose creeds and consciences forbid a participation in that of the majority. To say nothing of other sects, this is the case with that of Roman Catholics and Quakers who have always had members in one or both of the Legislative branches. Could a Catholic clergyman ever hope to be appointed a Chaplain? To say that his religious principles are obnoxious or that his sect is small, is to lift the evil at once and exhibit in its naked deformity the doctrine that religious truth is to be tested by numbers. or that the major sects have a right to govern the minor." James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822: "I observe with particular pleasure the view you have taken of the immunity of Religion from civil jurisdiction, in every case where it does not trespass on private rights or the public peace. This has always been a favorite principle with me; and it was not with my approbation, that the deviation from it took place in Cong[ress], when they appointed Chaplains, to be paid from the Nat[ional] Treasury. It would have been a much better proof to their Constituents of their pious feeling if the members had contributed for the purpose, a pittance from their own pockets. As the precedent is not likely to be rescinded, the best that can now be done, may be to apply to the Const[itution] the maxim of the law, de minimis non curat." From Benjamin Franklin’s autobiography: “...Some books against Deism fell into my hands....It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quote to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations, in short, I soon became a thorough Deist.” Benjamin Franklin, The Writings of Benjamin Franklin: London, 1757 - 1775 "If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England." Ethan Allen, From Religion of the American Enlightenment: “Denominated a Deist, the reality of which I have never disputed, being conscious that I am no Christian.” Thomas Paine - Excerpts from The Age of Reason: "My own mind is my own church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine - Excerpts from The Age of Reason: “Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more *****nant to reason, and more contradictory in itself than this thing called Christianity” Thomas Paine [1737-1809] From The Age of Reason, pp. 89 "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of....Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and of my own part, I disbelieve them all." Thomas Paine [1737-1809] From The Age of Reason, pp. 89 "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." The Age of Reason The Source
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