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Old 10-31-2004, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
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"To begin: Peace be upon he who follow the Guidance.
People of United States, this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal way to prevent another Manhattan and deals with the war and its causes and results.

Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar in human life and that free men do not forfeit their security contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom.

If so, then let him explain why did not strike - for example - Sweden.

And we know that freedom haters do not possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 may Allah have mercy on them.

No, we fight because we are free men who do not sleep under oppression.

We want to restore freedom to our Nation and just as you lay waste to our Nation so shall we lay waste to yours.

But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events of September 11, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real cause and thus the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred.

So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and I shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken for you to consider.

I say to you Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike towers.

But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the America/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.

The events that affected my soul in a difficult way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American 6th fleet helped them in that.

And the whole world saw and heard but did not respond.

In those difficult moments many hard to describe ideas bubbled in my soul but in the end they produced intense feelings of rejection of tyranny and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressors in kind and that we destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.

We have not found it difficult to deal with the Bush administration in light of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half of which are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents.

Our experience with them is lengthy and both types are replete with those who are characterised by pride, arrogance, greed and misappropriation of wealth.

This resemblance began after the visits of Bush Senior to the region at a time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that these visits would have an effect on our countries. All of a sudden he was affected by these monarchies and military regimes and became jealous of their remaining decades in their position to embezzle the public wealth of the Nation without supervision or accounting.

So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named it the Patriot Act under the pretences of fighting terrorism.

In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors and did not forget to import expertise in election fraud from the regions presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty.

All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration.

And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration notice.

It never occurred to us that the Commander in Chief of the armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone at a time when they most needed him.

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers we were given three times the period required to execute the operations. All praise is due to Allah."



OK, what if anything do we all think about this? How will this affect the election, if at all, and what, if anything, is the most important aspect of this latest message from America's Most Wanted Man? The way he looked? What he said?

The very fact that he is alive at all?

Do the various translations of his words have any affect on how his message is recieved in America or does it say more about the entity that does the translating?

Lastly, should this video have even been played on American TV?

For the record, this translation is from the English version of Al-Jazeera.



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Old 10-31-2004, 15:35   #2 (permalink)
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Is that the enitre 18 minutes? I love how he blames Bush and then regurgitates the Michael Moore line about reading to children... Like everyone in the US Military was hinging upon the president before we could leap into action.....

As far as catching him, it too the FBI 20 years to get the Unibomber, 7 years to get one man in a forest in NC (Eric Robert Rudolph) and still havent caught the killers and others on the FBI most wanted list ALL HERE IN THE US!

Also, I remember Bush saying that the war isnt about one man, even though we all seem to have forgotten that.

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The video taped verison is available through this page.
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It reaffirms my belief that this guy is no crazy lunatic. Under-estimating him would be real stupidity. He may not have world class uniforms and weaponry but he does have brains and brawn willing to follow him.

He maybe on the run but he isn't down for the count yet.

I also think this is the first time he has explicitly made a connection to US support and involvement in Israeli affairs. Frankly, I am surprised he didn't say anything about Mr. Bush's drive for a "Roadmap" in the ME which would in all probabilities have resulted in the birth of a Palestinian state - thereby settling the dispute.

He also glosses over the fact that it's people like himself who are actively involved in preventing a solution of anykind in the Middle East.
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Is that the enitre 18 minutes?
It might be that he just talks r-e-a-l-l-l-y slow but I'm wondering the same thing. If anyone can find a more thorough transcript, I'd encourage them to post it here but I think that may be it.


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Also, I remember Bush saying that the war isnt about one man, even though we all seem to have forgotten that.

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I agree but I don't think anyone has forgotten that this one man is responsible for the planning and coordination of mass murder and destruction on American soil. His capture, death, and/or execution is of utmost importance to me and most Americans I would say.

The fact that he is alive and well really pisses me off.
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It might be that he just talks r-e-a-l-l-l-y slow but I'm wondering the same thing. If anyone can find a more thorough transcript, I'd encourage them to post it here but I think that may be it.



I agree but I don't think anyone has forgotten that this one man is responsible for the planning and coordination of mass murder and destruction on American soil. His capture, death, and/or execution is of utmost importance to me and most Americans I would say.

The fact that he is alive and well really pisses me off.
You missed the point Westbrook, the capture, trial and execution are secondary to most Americans in my opinion. I think staying safe, and preventing further deaths on US soil is and should always be the primary focus of the war on terror. Bin Laden moves from Muslim country to Muslim country, and that in fact is good, simply because it is better than him moving from state to state in the continental United States killing more innocent people. I am well pleased with taking the battle to them on their ground . . . seems to make sense to some of us!! Just my opinion . . .
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