Go Back   Trackpads Community > General Discussions > Point/Counterpoint > Politics

Politics Debate elections, political parties and platforms, candidates, and other related topics here. Can't be thin skinned - people will disagree with you. No flaming or personal attacks allowed.

Politics

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-29-2004, 04:18   #1 (permalink)
NCO
 
las47032's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Army Service Button 1 Blue Star Bronze Community Medal 
Total Awards: 3
My Mood
Status
las47032 is offline
Post Count
1,991
My Photos
My Photos: 0
Staff Title
P/CP and Politics Forums Moderator
Member Flags
United States us florida
My Referrals
My Referrals: 1
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
las47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond reputelas47032 has a reputation beyond repute
Petz
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 44,756.00
Bank: 1,061.15
Total T-Bucks: 45,817.15
   

 
Default One can only hope. Soros says he’ll go to a monastery if Bush wins

WASHIGTON, D.C. -- Billionaire investor, donor to radical causes and political activist George Soros, speaking at the last hurrah event of his whirlwind anti-Bush tour, told a luncheon audience at the National Press Club: "Now that I am at the end of my tour, I am not reassured... The race is too close for comfort."

"I embarked on the tour because I was worried that the dramatic deterioration in Iraq did not produce the decisive lead for John Kerry I had confidently expected," Soros conceded.

Asked what he will do if George W. Bush wins another term, Soros lamented, "I shall go into some kind of monastery. If we endorse him [Bush], my next question will be ‘what’s wrong with us?’" Competing for attention at the National Press Club was a contingent from the National Legal and Policy Center that has been shadowing Soros during his recent appearances in the swing states of Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida.

At a separate press conference, the Center announced the formation of their "Soros Truth Squad," touting the fact that just hours before, it had filed suit with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) complaining of the activities of two nonprofit organizations that hosted Soros’ current round of anti-Bush speeches.

Also the subject of formal complaint by the Center: Soros himself. The Center alleges that Soros has failed to report "significant travel, public relations and other costs associated with his speaking tour."

During the Center’s presentation, a representative who came over from the Soros luncheon contingent shouted out that the allegations against Soros were false. Peter Flaherty, the president of the Center, countered that Soros had not yet been served with the complaint, so how could the gentleman know it was falsely based?

Meanwhile at the luncheon, NewsMax was on hand to ask Soros about the just filed complaint. With no small amount of irony, Soros replied, "It’s a shady group supported by a shady billionaire ... I think I was well within my rights under the First Amendment."

The Soros luncheon was crashed by a heckler who grabbed the microphone and held up a picture of his dead son -- apparently the victim of a drug overdose (Soros supports the legalization of marijuana, the use of methadone and even the clinical dosing of addicts with heroin).

A couple of burly men in suits wrestled the man roughly out of the ballroom, smacking him into a door jam before resuming their stations to the left and right ends of the head table.

Soros stayed on topic. "Some people have a false understanding of where I stand [on drugs].

Soros opined that Kerry was going to win Ohio, owing in no small measure to the 850,000 newly-registered voters there. He added that he hoped the Republican "voter suppression" would not dampen the grass roots movement against Bush he has been fostering during his round of speeches.

"I am very concerned about the election being dependent on the Courts. Knowing who will be president on Nov. 2 is rather slim," Soros said. "It’s all very demeaning of the democratic process in this country."

Conceding that his hope for a "democrat landslide" has gone by the boards, his only direct remark about candidate Kerry was that he knew him personally and that he would make "a good president."

Another tepid endorsement of Kerry came as he explained that in his opinion Kerry understood that "offense is not necessarily the best defense if it offends those whose allegiance we need. John Kerry is aware of this other dimension... He is nuanced because reality is complicated...

"John Kerry won all three debates but President Bush invokes his faith and that inspires his followers…… Bush has shown that he is incapable of recognizing his mistakes. He insists on making reality conform to his beliefs even at the cost of deceiving himself and deliberately deceiving the public." "We have been spared a terrorist attack at home but it is quite a stretch to attribute that to the invasion of Iraq," Soros argued. "The insurrection in Iraq, however, is a somber reality and it doesn’t make us safer at home. Our security, far from improving as President Bush claims, is deteriorating."

Soros concluded: "If we elect President Bush the war on terror will never end. The terrorists are invisible, therefore they can never disappear. It is our civil liberties that may disappear instead."

Meanwhile, back at the "Soros Truth Squad," Flaherty noted emotionally, "God is right here at the National Press Club! ...I wonder if he has embarked on his tour because he wishes that he were the candidate, instead of Kerry?"


George Soros Now Doubts a Kerry Victory
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...8/162046.shtml
__________________
"If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in front of them."
las47032 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Trackpads Information
Click to Visit
Old 10-29-2004, 14:57   #2 (permalink)
Non-Commissioned Officer
 
Carnage_59's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Air Force Service Button Bronze Community Medal 
Total Awards: 2
My Mood
My Mood:
Status
Carnage_59 is offline
Post Count
1,402
My Photos
My Photos: 24
Member Flags
United States us virginia
My Referrals
My Referrals: 0
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
Carnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to allCarnage_59 is a name known to all
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 2,571.88
Bank: 0.00
Total T-Bucks: 2,571.88
 

 
Default Re: One can only hope. Soros says he’ll go to a monastery if Bush wins

What monastery would accept George Soros??? Most of the monasteries I know of are very conservative.
__________________


This says it all.
Carnage_59 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2004, 11:14   #3 (permalink)
Cranky Old Dude :)
 
82nd Airborne Dad's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Total Awards:
My Mood
My Mood:
Status
82nd Airborne Dad is offline
Post Count
2,722
My Photos
My Photos: 3
Member Flags
United States Undisclosed
My Referrals
My Referrals: 1
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 10,687.00
Bank: 0.00
Total T-Bucks: 10,687.00

 
Default Re: One can only hope. Soros says he’ll go to a monastery if Bush wins

Maybe they can make an acception!! Hopefully he will take vast number of the rest of their party along!!


If the Commies love him, he must be bad for the rest of America!!
82nd Airborne Dad is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2004, 11:36   #4 (permalink)
Monkey Mouse
 
Woodmonkey's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Gold Staff Service Medal Gold Reputation Medal Bronze Referrals Medal Bronze Magazine Medal Silver Gallery Medal Gold Donations Award Silver Donations Award 2 Blue Star 
Total Awards: 12
My Mood
My Mood:
Status
Woodmonkey is offline
Post Count
58,366
My Photos
My Photos: 108
Staff Title
Trackpads XO
Member Flags
United States us connecticut
My Referrals
My Referrals: 15
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
Woodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond repute
Petz
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 97,316.17
Bank: 1,395,289.83
Total T-Bucks: 1,492,606.00
     
     
     

 
Default Re: One can only hope. Soros says he’ll go to a monastery if Bush wins

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carnage_59
What monastery would accept George Soros??? Most of the monasteries I know of are very conservative.
How about the Trappist Monks? Then he has to shut up!
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How May I Help You?





PM me through this link if clicking on those banners doesn't help with your questions

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Woodmonkey is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2004, 11:44   #5 (permalink)
Cranky Old Dude :)
 
82nd Airborne Dad's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Total Awards:
My Mood
My Mood:
Status
82nd Airborne Dad is offline
Post Count
2,722
My Photos
My Photos: 3
Member Flags
United States Undisclosed
My Referrals
My Referrals: 1
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all82nd Airborne Dad is a name known to all
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 10,687.00
Bank: 0.00
Total T-Bucks: 10,687.00

 
Default Re: One can only hope. Soros says he’ll go to a monastery if Bush wins

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodmonkey
How about the Trappist Monks? Then he has to shut up!
That would surely kill him!!


If the Commies love him, he must be bad for the rest of America!!
82nd Airborne Dad is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2004, 11:50   #6 (permalink)
Monkey Mouse
 
Woodmonkey's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Gold Staff Service Medal Gold Reputation Medal Bronze Referrals Medal Bronze Magazine Medal Silver Gallery Medal Gold Donations Award Silver Donations Award 2 Blue Star 
Total Awards: 12
My Mood
My Mood:
Status
Woodmonkey is offline
Post Count
58,366
My Photos
My Photos: 108
Staff Title
Trackpads XO
Member Flags
United States us connecticut
My Referrals
My Referrals: 15
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
Woodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond repute
Petz
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 97,316.17
Bank: 1,395,289.83
Total T-Bucks: 1,492,606.00
     
     
     

 
Default Re: One can only hope. Soros says he’ll go to a monastery if Bush wins

Quote:
Originally Posted by 82nd Airborne Dad
That would surely kill him!!
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How May I Help You?





PM me through this link if clicking on those banners doesn't help with your questions

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Woodmonkey is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2004, 11:54   #7 (permalink)
Monkey Mouse
 
Woodmonkey's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Gold Staff Service Medal Gold Reputation Medal Bronze Referrals Medal Bronze Magazine Medal Silver Gallery Medal Gold Donations Award Silver Donations Award 2 Blue Star 
Total Awards: 12
My Mood
My Mood:
Status
Woodmonkey is offline
Post Count
58,366
My Photos
My Photos: 108
Staff Title
Trackpads XO
Member Flags
United States us connecticut
My Referrals
My Referrals: 15
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
Woodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond repute
Petz
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 97,316.17
Bank: 1,395,289.83
Total T-Bucks: 1,492,606.00
     
     
     

 
Default Re: One can only hope. Soros says he’ll go to a monastery if Bush wins

Quote:
Originally Posted by las47032
Soros concluded: "If we elect President Bush the war on terror will never end. The terrorists are invisible, therefore they can never disappear.
Talk about fallacious reasoning! The war on terror may not end for a long time, maybe even several lifetimes, but that is because of the terrorists and their goals, not George Bush. They were operating long before he became President and will operate when he is not.

As for them being invisible ... well, duh!!!! He expect them to wear signs?
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How May I Help You?