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Old 10-29-2004, 01:11   #1 (permalink)
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Default Can America afford four more years?

Some of the reasons Sen. Kerry will be getting my vote on Nov. 2nd.

http://www.aflcio.org/issuespolitics...ears_flash.cfm
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Old 10-29-2004, 16:06   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Can America afford four more years?

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Some of the reasons Sen. Kerry will be getting my vote on Nov. 2nd.

http://www.aflcio.org/issuespolitics...ears_flash.cfm
I viewed the video & have a few questions you might be able to answer.


1. The dilapidated school shown, where is it & how did it manage to get that run down in the last 3 years?

2. Job loss . How much loss can be attributed to 9/11 & the effect that had on our economy. In other words if we were to subtract all jobs lost directly & indirectly because of of 9/11 what is the net loss?

3. Meds pricing. Congress approved of the plan in place. Long before Bush took office supplying meds to foreign countries at less cost was in place. Why would Kerry push for re-importation when he could state he will push for legislation to reduce the cost even more by not shipping meds out of this country in the 1st place. Imagine if you will the reduced cost to Americans if all the handling & transportation costs were eliminated. Why isn't Kerry inovative rather than condemning something he as a member of congress had a voice in creating?


4. Product importation. Boxes of something from China were shown I couldn't make out what. I can accept those as representative but without trade or minamal trade what happens to the jobs lost in the ports, trucking industry, trains trans con shipping, warehouse handling to name a few that would be affected/lost by a reduction in trade. What would Kerry do to replace those
jobs?

5. Health care. It is no mystery that remaining competative in the world means America will have to make changes in what it manufactures & exports. We know clothing, shoe, & steel industries have gone by the wayside. When those went out of business the support or suppliers lost jobs too. Those because of competition took along with it health care for millions. For companies to compete they need to find ways to cut costs. Tax incentives, & lower labor cost, are a couple of ways to compete yet Kerry says he wants to eliminate those. What exactly did Kerry say would replace those in order for companies to remain in business? If companies have no tax offset to be able to buy new technology to compete & labor costs are increased via Kerry's promises how will health plans be paid for ?


Please don't refer me to a web site to try to decypher promises. Since I've taken the time to ask, please in your own words explain your thoughts on how Kerry will accomplish reversing what in many instances congress has put in place over the last 30 years.
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Old 10-29-2004, 16:14   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Can America afford four more years?

Odanny,

I don't think we can afford the alternative to NOT having four more years of Bush.
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Old 10-29-2004, 20:40   #4 (permalink)
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Odanny,

I don't think we can afford the alternative to NOT having four more years of Bush.
The majority of people I've talked to say we can not afford to have either of them for the next four years, hence the worst of two evils ideology


Bush is my commander in chief and I'll take him over the treasonous traitor Kerry any day of the week. Bush has his problems with domestic policy though!

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Odanny,

I don't think we can afford the alternative to NOT having four more years of Bush.

I agree with you there dave.
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Default Re: Can America afford four more years?

Four more Clinton-like years:

With military budget cuts; closing military installations; loss of troops because of, bad or no military response, or the wrong response (like Mogadishu), or issues like no cost of living increases, reduction in family medical coverage; allowing terrorists to run rampid in America, and untethered abroad; all the while using Airforce One to take more overseas flights (personal vacations on taxpayer dollars) than the previous two presidents did combined . . .

Nope, I don't think we can afford another democrat again period!!
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Default Re: Can America afford four more years?

I viewed the video & have a few questions you might be able to answer.


1. The dilapidated school shown, where is it & how did it manage to get that run down in the last 3 years?

How am I supposed to know? You are upset that this is blamed on Pres. Bush., but don't fret, the point is your tax dollars and mine are being funneled down a black hole in Iraq, so that there is little left over for schools in America. I know that thought probably does not bother you much, as we have made this nation safer since we ruined Saddam's plans to employ weapons of mass destruction against us, and therefore that makes it worth the cost.

2. Job loss . How much loss can be attributed to 9/11 & the effect that had on our economy. In other words if we were to subtract all jobs lost directly & indirectly because of of 9/11 what is the net loss?

That is a convenient way to justify what the figures represent: A negative creation of jobs, the only time since Herbert Hoover I believe. And if you can't explain that way, just blame it on 9/11. Oh yes, that all-inclusive 9/11 umbrella. Great straw man argument. Again, if you wish to justify this record by the events of 9/11, that is your choice. Makes no difference to me.


3. Meds pricing. Congress approved of the plan in place. Long before Bush took office supplying meds to foreign countries at less cost was in place. Why would Kerry push for re-importation when he could state he will push for legislation to reduce the cost even more by not shipping meds out of this country in the 1st place. Imagine if you will the reduced cost to Americans if all the handling & transportation costs were eliminated. Why isn't Kerry inovative rather than condemning something he as a member of congress had a voice in creating?

Oh, so you approve the ban on imports from Canada on prescription drugs so the pharmceutical industry can keep making obscene profits? Pres. Bush says we must do this out of concern for "our safety"

Can you tell me how many Canadians have died from prescrition drugs that killed them?


4. Product importation. Boxes of something from China were shown I couldn't make out what. I can accept those as representative but without trade or minamal trade what happens to the jobs lost in the ports, trucking industry, trains trans con shipping, warehouse handling to name a few that would be affected/lost by a reduction in trade. What would Kerry do to replace those
jobs?


?? To you, outsourcing is a good thing. Anyone knows that some outsourcing is inevitable, but we have a government that not only encourages and believes in it, but gives tax incentives for this to take place. And they have much of the working class so committed to the Bush dogma that they get in line to defend and also support this practice.

5. Health care. It is no mystery that remaining competative in the world means America will have to make changes in what it manufactures & exports. We know clothing, shoe, & steel industries have gone by the wayside. When those went out of business the support or suppliers lost jobs too. Those because of competition took along with it health care for millions. For companies to compete they need to find ways to cut costs. Tax incentives, & lower labor cost, are a couple of ways to compete yet Kerry says he wants to eliminate those. What exactly did Kerry say would replace those in order for companies to remain in business? If companies have no tax offset to be able to buy new technology to compete & labor costs are increased via Kerry's promises how will health plans be paid for ?

Our health care system is messed up, and it will not improve under George Bush. It may not imporove under Kerry, either.


Please don't refer me to a web site to try to decypher promises. Since I've taken the time to ask, please in your own words explain your thoughts on how Kerry will accomplish reversing what in many instances congress has put in place over the last 30 years.

Who said anything about reversing every destructive or broken practice in
government? Do you think of me as some Pollyanna who believe in every bit of political rhetoric that comes my way? Kerry is running on promises, of which he may or may not deliver. I'm certainly not enthusiastic he will deliver, as I have not been from a great many Presidents, but Pres. Bush is running on a track record of four years as President, and that is what I judge him by.
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