Swift Boat Veterans For Truth.

[robini123]

Kerry loves to make us all believe that he is a war hero. He continuously reminds us of his three Purple Hearts. He has "his" Band of Brothers in tow with him wherever he goes. I did not want to take a stand against Kerry's service record without proof that he lied... well I found proof!

http://www.swiftvets.com/ is a web site that is telling the truth about Kerry's time in Vietnam... as told by the men that served with him... many of them accomidated War Heroes... some of them with more metals than Kerry. Here is what they have to say about Kerry:

http://www.swiftvets.com/images/Vets_after.jpg

As an officer in command (OIC) in training, Kerry reported during this mission to William Schachte, who eventually retired as a Rear Admiral. Schachte flatly contradicts Kerry's claim to have been wounded by enemy fire, saying that after his M-16 jammed, Kerry picked up an M-79 grenade launcher and fired a grenade that exploded too close to the boat, causing a small piece of shrapnel to stick in the skin of his arm. Kerry himself did not report receiving hostile fire that night, which would have been required, and there is no record of hostile fire for the mission.

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Purple1

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp

The following morning, John Kerry arrived at the office of Coastal Division 14 Commander Grant Hibbard to apply for a Purple Heart. Having already been informed by Schachte that Kerry's injury was self-inflicted rather than the result of hostile fire, Commander Hibbard told him to "forget it." Hibbard recently said of Kerry's minor scratch, "I’ve seen worse injuries from a rose thorn."

Nevertheless, John Kerry managed to obtain his coveted Purple Heart for this incident nearly three months later after being transferred to Coastal Division 11. The circumstances remain obscure, as there are no written records of this award on file at the Naval Historical Center. Various other documents that might shed light on this award remain unavailable due to Senator Kerry's refusal to release his complete military records.

Military regulations state that to qualify for a Purple Heart, an injury must come "from an outside force or agent," and treatment for the wound must "have been made a matter of official record." While John Kerry managed to satisfy the second criterion by insisting that an amused Dr. Letson provide an official Band-Aid, nicking himself with a fragment from his own poorly-aimed grenade fails to meet the first qualification.

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Purple1

Quotes from Men that served with him:

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Quotes

www.WinterSoldier.com is dedicated to the American veterans of the Vietnam War, who served with courage and honor. (Another site the debunks Kerry)

I encourage all to review all of the info on the web sites I have posted, and what I have posted is only a small insight into the mind of a WIMP and LIAR! Why do I call Kerry a WIMP? Wounding himself with a sliver and taking back channels to get his Purple Heart... Is OFINCIVE to the memory of all the REAL MEN that fought and died in Vietnam... many of them never received a metal... but their family’s received a folded American Flag!

I can't even begin to convey to you all how disgusted I am right now. The fact is that the Libs will ignore/forgive what he has done, just because he is a Liberal... just as they did with Clinton.

We need a strong leader now... and Kerry is now officially in my book as a traitor/liar/wimp!!! Spread the word.

[BrianK]

I decided to look up the history of why a Purple Heart is awarded. The severity of the wounds received by John Kerry relative to his 4 months of service seem out of proportion to why the Purple Heart was originally conceived by Gen. Geo. Washington. I wasn’t there to see his wounds. Like everyone else I’ve been made aware of what his wounds were. I don't fault any service to our country, it isn't the length of time it's the way it is presented that makes a difference to me.

The original intent by Gen. Geo. Washington was this.This is an excerpt from the original charter explaining the Purple Heart history. Referring to Gen. Geo. Washington it begins.

His keen appreciation of the importance of the common soldier in any campaign impelled him to recognize outstanding valor and merit by granting a commission or an advance in rank to deserving individuals. In the summer of 1782 he was ordered by the Continental Congress to cease doing so, there were no funds to pay the soldiers, much less the officers!

Deprived of his usual means of reward, he must have searched for a substitute. Shortly after receiving the "stop" order from Congress, he wrote his memorable General Orders of August 7, 1782, which read in part as follows:

"The General, ever desirous to cherish virtuous ambition in his soldiers as well as foster and encourage every species of military merit, directs that whenever any singularly meritorious action is performed, the author of it shall be permitted to wear on his facings,over his left breast, the figure of a heart in purple cloth or silk edged with narrow lace or binding. Not only instances of unusual gallantry but also of extraordinary fidelity and essential service in any way shall meet with due reward. The name and regiment of the persons so certified are to be enrolled in a Book of Merit which shall be kept in the orderly room." The order further states: "Men who have merited this distinction to be suffered to pass all guards and sentinels which officers are permitted to do. The order to be retroactive to the earliest stages of the war, and to be a permanent one." Washington ended his order with: "The road to glory in a patriot army and a free country is thus open to all."

I repeat I wasn't there I don't know what happened. Like most I've read reports of at least one of his injuries covered with a band aid. That is a red flag to me. If his medical records shows that even one of his injuries was treated & covered with a band aid. Then the criteria expected by Gen. Geo. Washington (instances of unusual gallantry but also of extraordinary fidelity and essential service in any way) IMO falls woefully short of the high expectations of the leader that recognized & wanted to reward in some way those kinds of actions

[Spec4]

I think it's great that after hearing the Kerry Cheerleaders (Mainstream Media)
ballyhoo about his "Band Of Brothers" for all these months, we now finally get to hear
"The rest of the story" as Paul Harvey would put it.

The pieces all fit. Kerry couldn't escape the draft, so he decided to Enlist in
the Navy and re-create his own version of John F. Kennedy/PT-109, knowing he could get great political mileage out of it later in his run for President.
He volunteered for Swift Boat duty because at the time, swift boats were safe duty, primarily shuttles between the fleet and shore. Shortly after he took command of the Swift boat, their mission was changed from shuttle service to actual combat duty, patrolling up the Mekong river. This upset Kerry, who then proceeded to use his connections toward picking up the 3 quick Purple Hearts and getting the hell out of there with an Early-out.
OK, fine, many did what they could do to cover their ass. But Kerry's well-documented traitorous activities afterward are what are inexcusable.

Kerry has brought this on himself, with his constant reminder to all that he is a
great Vietnam war hero. But he really has nothing else. He can't talk about his aid to Hanoi as part of the VVAW, disgracefully accusing his brothers-in-arms of war crimes, his 20 some years in the Senate where he has accomplished nothing, nor his sucking up to Daniel Ortega and any other Communist he could schmooze with. He's an empty suit.

If the "Massholes" are stupid enough to elect him as Senator, that's their problem.
Let's just keep him the hell away from the Oval Office.

[Snowden]

I like your description of the liberal Massachusetts voters, Spec4. One of my cyber friends lives in Boston, and is a conservative. He detests both the senators from there - but, as he says, there are only two votes in his house.

Kerry went to the sick bay for an injury in his finger, and the doctor refused to report it. He went to the captain, who agreed with the doctor - it was referred to as a self-inflicted "rose thorn" injury. Three months later, the captain was changed and the new one was presented with papers Kerry had managed to get made up. He approved them and that Purple Heart was granted. The others were no more severe.

My brother-in-law was severely wounded at Iwo Jima - was months recovering and then returned to battle. My husband was hospitalized with shrapnel wounds - and returned to battle. One person in his company was sent to Paris, where a metal plate was put in his head for the wound there - and returned to the front lines in battle.

Vote for Kerry? Never. The man is scum, like the last Democrat we had in the Oval Office, only much more dangerous, IMO. This one even has a more threatening wife than Hillary - and we thought that wasn't possible!

Good Lord, I hope we can keep this pair out of the White House!

[robini123]

If I understand correctly, one can put themselves up for a commendation. I found this kind of surprising. Some vets that I have talked with say that they never asked to be commentated. I guess it all has to do with intent, and I think we all know what Kerry's intent was.

3. Why do you want Senator John Kerry to release his entire military records?

We want Senator Kerry to tell the truth about his conduct in Vietnam to the American public. We were there. We know that there are many critical facts that Americans need to know -– facts that have not been disclosed. Releasing the complete set of Kerry's service records will provide some insight into that conduct.

http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php?topic=FAQ

The fact is that Kerry could release his service record and squash this controversy in a heart beat. So why does he not? Me thinks he has something to hide.

4. Aren’t you nothing more than Republican loyalists who happen to be veterans?

No. Among us are Democrats, Republicans and Independents. We are acting solely as Vietnam veterans who served in Swift Boats.

10. Why are you not demanding that President Bush release his records?

It is our understanding that President Bush has released his records. If there are additional facts about his conduct in the military that should be disclosed, then we hope and trust that servicemen who had served with him will come forward as we have.

17. Are you working or involved in any way with the Bush/Cheney campaign or any other Republican organization?

Absolutely not. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is a non-partisan organization. As part of our mission, we believe it is incumbent on ALL presidential candidates to be totally honest and forthcoming regarding personal background and policy information that would help the voting public make an informed decision when choosing the next president of the United States.

The organization was created, organized and funded by swift boat veterans who joined together to defend a common cause. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth accepts donations from individuals and groups as a 527 organization.

http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php?topic=FAQ

I have a really hard time believing that these men... some of them high ranking officers and or highly decelerated soldiers... are collectively lying. I find it easier to believe that Kerry is lying.

[Spec4]

Well, yeah. Lies and exaggeration apparently come easy to him.

Here's another Kerry Fabrication the Swift Boat Vets have blown apart:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=39856

[Joker]

Originally Posted by BrianK

"The General, ever desirous to cherish virtuous ambition in his soldiers as well as foster and encourage every species of military merit, directs that whenever any singularly meritorious action is performed, the author of it shall be permitted to wear on his facings,over his left breast, the figure of a heart in purple cloth or silk edged with narrow lace or binding. Not only instances of unusual gallantry but also of extraordinary fidelity and essential service in any way shall meet with due reward. The name and regiment of the persons so certified are to be enrolled in a Book of Merit which shall be kept in the orderly room." The order further states: "Men who have merited this distinction to be suffered to pass all guards and sentinels which officers are permitted to do. The order to be retroactive to the earliest stages of the war, and to be a permanent one." Washington ended his order with: "The road to glory in a patriot army and a free country is thus open to all."

This doesn't suggest to me that Washington insisted on any injury to qualify for a Purple Heart. Just acts of valour in the field, and civvy as I am, simply facing the enemy and not cracking up altogether is a pretty valorous deed in my book. If being 'wounded (or killed) in action' is the requirement for a PH, I see the 'in action' bit as crucial. Whether a piece of shrapnel leaves your arm hanging by a thread, or just tears out a chunk of flesh, missing any major arteries, the recognition that you were in harm's way has to be appreciated.

That leaves the question of just how bad a wound has to be, and just how 'obscure' this 'three hits and you're out' rule is. Also, the issue of whether Kerry was motivated to get out of Vietnam by personal fear or personal disgust about what was happening there. I believe that a man who was covering his own backside would have lain low, rather than joining the VVAW (which doesn't sound like what John F. Kennedy would have done).