Go Back   Trackpads Community > General Discussions > Point/Counterpoint

Point/Counterpoint Debate newsworthy and other 'hot-button' topics here. If it can be debated, this is the forum for it. Can't be thin skinned - people will disagree with you. No flaming or personal attacks.

Point/Counterpoint

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-27-2008, 19:17   #1 (permalink)
Monkey Mouse
 
Woodmonkey's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Gold Staff Service Medal Gold Reputation Medal Bronze Referrals Medal Bronze Magazine Medal Silver Gallery Medal Gold Donations Award Silver Donations Award 2 Blue Star 
Total Awards: 12
My Mood
My Mood:
Status
Woodmonkey is offline
Post Count
58,366
My Photos
My Photos: 108
Staff Title
Trackpads XO
Member Flags
United States us connecticut
My Referrals
My Referrals: 15
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
Woodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond reputeWoodmonkey has a reputation beyond repute
Petz
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 97,306.17
Bank: 1,395,289.83
Total T-Bucks: 1,492,596.00
     
     
     

 
Post Racing Against the Clock (Economy)

Congressional lawmakers continued to negotiate a deal over a controversial Wall Street bailout package Saturday afternoon, after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he hopes to have an agreement in principle by late Sunday.

Talks are resuming after congressional aides worked well into the night Friday fine-tuning a host of economic proposals.

Reid said there are about 15 issues lawmakers need to resolve. Reid hopes that if an agreement is reached Sunday, it won't take long to write the legislation and there could be a vote in the coming week.

"It is still a long way from completing it but we've made significant progress," Reid said.

Principal negotiators met with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson late Saturday afternoon, but according to one GOP source the meeting was very heated.

The source said House Democrats were calling for a new tax on securities firms, and that New York Sen. Charles Schumer told lawmakers he was concerned they were spinning their wheels. The source said Montana Sen. Max Baucus was also yelling at Paulson over executive compensation.

The meeting came after House Republicans said there was no deal yet, voicing lingering concerns about whether the legislation would adequately protect taxpayers.

“It's important that we move, but it's important we move with discretion," House Minority Leader John Boehner said. "There are a lot of issues still on the table."

But after negotiations over the $700 billion bailout seemed to break down late Thursday, President Bush and senior leaders on Capitol Hill nevertheless expressed optimism they were nearing an accord.

"There is a widespread feeling we've made progress," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Saturday.

In a positive sign, lawmakers called a meeting of the House rules committee, which is one of the first hurdles a bill must go through to reach the floor.

House sources said, too, they are hopeful a deal can be reached within 24 hours.

"Members of Congress from both sides of the aisle have contributed constructive proposals that have improved this plan," Bush said in his weekly radio address Saturday. "Republicans and Democrats must continue to address it together. And I am confident that we will pass a bill to protect the financial security of every American very soon."

A key House negotiator, Rep. Barney Frank, has also said he believes a deal can be in place by Sunday.

The bailout is intended to rescue bankers from the bad loans that threaten to derail the economy and plunge the country into a long depression. With talks set to resume, negotiators sought a deal before Asian markets open Monday.

House Republicans are now negotiating to give the Treasury the option to make loans to financial institutions in lieu of buying distressed assets.

A House Republican said this would be "better for taxpayers."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told fellow Democrats during a private meeting Friday that the legislation would not let judges rewrite mortgages to help bankrupt homeowners avoid foreclosure. That provision amounted to a deal-breaker for Republicans, whose votes are needed to pass the measure, she said, according to lawmakers at the meeting.

Democrats and Bush administration officials said they were willing to include House Republicans' idea of having the government insure distressed mortgages -- but only as an option, rather than a replacement for the administration's more sweeping approach.

In a sign of movement, House Republicans also dispatched their second-ranking leader, Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri, to join the talks after their objections to an emerging compromise had brought negotiations to a standstill.

Negotiators broke past midnight without an agreement. The House was in session Saturday, but action on the bailout plan is expected to be focused on the Senate side, where the bipartisan, bicameral negotiations are taking place.

"I'm convinced that by Sunday we will have an agreement that people can understand on this bill," said Frank, a key Democrat in eight days of up-and-down talks designed to stave off an economic disaster.

Pelosi added that "progress is being made," although neither she nor Frank divulged details at a late-afternoon news conference in the Capitol.

Democratic and Republican staff aides met into the night on Capitol Hill, going line by line through legislative proposals in an attempt to clear the way for lawmakers to bargain over the weekend.

The major party presidential contenders — Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama — agreed during their debate Friday that Congress must act soon.

Meanwhile, new details emerged of a remarkably tumultuous White House meeting on Thursday. With the session breaking up in disarray, according to two participants, President Bush issued an appeal, saying, "Can't we just all go out and say things are OK?" The group around the table, congressional leaders as well as McCain and Obama, spurned the presidential request for a publicly united front.

Earlier in the White House meeting, Democrats peppered House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio with questions about the details of an alternative he was backing. "I don't know what the hell they are," Bush said at one point," recalled one person who was in the room. All the participants spoke on condition of anonymity, saying the meeting was private.

The legislation the White House is promoting would allow the government to buy bad mortgages and other sour assets held by investors, most of them financial companies. That should make those companies more inclined to lend and lift a major weight off the national economy that is already sputtering.

But a significant number of lawmakers, including many House conservatives, say they're against such heavy federal intervention. Under the GOP plan, the government would insure the distressed securities rather than buy them. Tax breaks would provide additional incentives to invest.

In an Associated Press-Knowledge Networks poll, only 30 percent of those surveyed expressed support for Bush's package. Forty-five percent were opposed, with 25 percent undecided. The survey was conducted Thursday and had a margin of error or plus or minus 3.8 percentage points.

The Source
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How May I Help You?





PM me through this link if clicking on those banners doesn't help with your questions

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Woodmonkey is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Trackpads Information
Click to Visit
Old 09-28-2008, 00:24   #2 (permalink)
NCO
 
leobold1's Avatar
My Awards Rack
Silver Staff Service Medal Silver Reputation  Medal Silver Commanders Coin Marine Corps Service Button Army Service Button Bronze Community Medal 1 Blue Star Silver Threads Medal 
Total Awards: 8
My Mood
My Mood:
Status
leobold1 is offline
Post Count
4,795
My Photos
My Photos: 17
Staff Title
Moderator Commander
Member Flags
United States us texas
My Referrals
My Referrals: 0
Personal Guestbook
Reputation +/-
leobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud ofleobold1 has much to be proud of
Social Networking View Member's YouTube Profile
Other Swag
T-Bucks: 12,921.36
Bank: 157,410.06
Total T-Bucks: 170,331.42
     

 
Default Re: Racing Against the Clock (Economy)

I just don't think that this is something that has to be done right this second. Saying that it has to be done now just makes it that much more suspect.

Funny thing...apparantly no one read the Patriot Act until Michael Moore read it to them from the side door of an icecream truck, and they had it for almost a year. This, they had for a day and everyone, both in and out of Washington D.C. had read it and formed an opinion on it.
__________________
Compel others: Do not be compelled by them
Sun-Tzu



leobold1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Lie Clock Snowden Humor 5 01-12-2008 12:47
Lie Clock kzola2005 Humor 6 10-20-2006 01:26
New Clock Snowden Humor 1 11-25-2004 15:48
The Lie Clock SherryGrace Humor 4 09-30-2004 11:33
clock syc. Roy Collingwood Microsoft Applications 5 07-24-2004 00:18


Community Information
Options
Quick Options
Trackpads Non-Commercial Ad
Copyright Information Click to Visit
Time
Server Time
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:37.
Copyright
Copyright Information
The header is based off of work by Vipixel.com and modified by this site. Trackpads and the Trackpads Logo are both Registered Trademarks of Jason Edwards and cannot be used without prior written permission.  The only exception is as a link back to this site. Trackpads is a private website run by a small legion of volunteers, 3 dogs, 12.5 cats and an army of small, super smart, bio-engineered mice with pointy hats and tutu's. Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7
Archive Links
Archive Links
Page generated in 0.67213 seconds with 22 queries