'Find the Illegal Immigrant'

[leobold1]

'Find the Illegal Immigrant' - News

College Republicans' event today incites protest from student groups

Nick Brennan

Issue date: 2/22/07

A contest called "Find the Illegal Immigrant" - a mock hunt for a student posing as just that - is being met with widespread protest on campus and receiving local and national media coverage.

The event, sponsored by NYU's College Republicans, is planned for today in Washington Square Park from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. The student posing as the illegal immigrant will wear a name tag saying so. Other students will try to find him or her, playing the part of border patrol agents and wearing nametags that say "INS," referring to the former Immigration and Naturalization Service.

College Republicans president and CAS junior Sarah Chambers said the contest is intended to bring attention to the issue of illegal immigration. The hunt is also designed to draw people to a table the group plans to set up in the south side of the Silver Center, Chambers said.

"The event will open up both vocally and physically the issue of illegal immigration," she said. "That it's not right to come here illegally while others are waiting to come here legally and receive free health care and jobs that undercut wages of American workers and people that are living here legally."

The contest's premise has caused an uproar on campus. Student groups - including the ACLU at NYU, the College Democrats and several multicultural clubs - have organized a protest that they expect will draw hundreds of students.

College Democrats president and CAS senior Nora Toiv called the event ignorant and dehumanizing.

"The event is offensive because by playing a game like this, you make light of a real-life situation," Toiv said. "To ridicule what is often a very traumatic experience is hateful."

Chambers refuted accusations of racism and said that the event is bringing debate to the issue.

"We are raising awareness here," Chambers said. "People from around the country have been e-mailing me both positively and negatively, but the fact remains that everytime the American public is polled, immigration ranks among the top three issues of concern, so we're not too far-fetched in our stance here."

"The goal here is to get people talking about it," she added.

Toiv said the College Democrats' largest objection to the event is in the way it has been presented.

"It's the issues they address and the way they address them that seem to always be targeting fellow students and staff at NYU. It's hateful," Toiv said. "Why can't you talk about something that doesn't personally attack several students?"

"Having tolerance for immigration is not a partisan issue," she added.

Protesters from the various other groups will be carrying signs and handing out pamphlets stating "No one is illegal" and calling the event "completely unacceptable."

Toiv said she wants the protest to be peaceful and is pushing for a silent protest.

"We're hoping for a peaceful protest that displays our disgust with the event," Toiv said. "If we come out looking crazier than the Republicans do, then we will have failed. But if the protest can go off peacefully, it will be a victory for us."

In light of the event, TV vans and national news stations swarmed onto NYU's campus yesterday. Many local stations reported live in front of the Kimmel Center, while the story made headlines nationwide, including coverage on CNN, Fox News, NPR and talk radio.

While the College Republicans anticipated the large response from the NYU community, Chambers said she had no idea the event would create this much of a reaction from outside the university.

"The media response was much larger then I expected - the NYU response was not," she said.

In interviews yesterday, several students voiced concern about the event.

CAS junior Zach Lane said he wishes it hadn't gotten so much coverage.

"I think it's better not to give them any attention," he said.

- additional reporting by Shira Rubin

[Woodmonkey]

"It's the issues they address and the way they address them that seem to always be targeting fellow students and staff at NYU. It's hateful," Toiv said. "Why can't you talk about something that doesn't personally attack several students?"

In other words, don't talk about people who break the law when it's not PC.

Protesters from the various other groups will be carrying signs and handing out pamphlets stating "No one is illegal" and calling the event "completely unacceptable."

Yes, people who sneak into this country are illegal whether they want to accept that or not.

They don't like anything that shines the spotlight on the fact that there are students at that school who shouldn't be there because they are not here legally.

[BrianK]

Originally Posted by leobold1

Toiv said the College Democrats' largest objection to the event is in the way it has been presented.

"It's the issues they address and the way they address them that seem to always be targeting fellow students and staff at NYU. It's hateful," Toiv said. "Why can't you talk about something that doesn't personally attack several students?"

"Having tolerance for immigration is not a partisan issue," she added.

Given the criteria outlined in the article I tend to come down on the side of the democrats that object.

The idea of a student posing as an illegal is the basic reason. According to the article a student as well as INS agents would be identified. That premis is flawed. Since they are going to do this I believe UNIDENTIFIED illegals from several nationalities would better represent how the influx we are experiencing blends into our society.


IMO debating how to uncover, identify & remove illegals from our society would serve the young minds better. Mock jobs and the impact if any on society would be an extension of the exercize but probably not feasible.

Putting forth a minamum sceanario will generate debate but IMO be hollow because there is no real thought process for the overall problem.


The idea has merit the execution has a long way to go in making students think let alone debate about their future and how ILLEGAL immigration can & will affect them.

[EdNigma]

"To ridicule what is often a very traumatic experience is hateful."

Yup, that is what I think everytime I see a mexico flag flying in the US. Mocking what it took to make the country. So, fark 'em I say. Let the games begin!

[BrianK]

Originally Posted by EdNigma

Yup, that is what I think everytime I see a mexico flag flying in the US. Mocking what it took to make the country. So, fark 'em I say. Let the games begin!

I think my point was made. Limiting illegal entry to one nationality may be all that is understood out of the planned exercise. Or least the way it is described in the article.

The nationality of those that flew the planes or all the other ILLEGALS entering America could get lost in why control of entry is needed.

If the mock setup is going to stimulate thinking it has to include variables that are part of real life.

[EdNigma]

If the mock setup is going to stimulate thinking it has to include variables that are part of real life.

Douche'. Or shall I say. Summers Eve.
-Mad TV-

In other words, I agree.

[BrianK]

Originally Posted by EdNigma

Douche'. Or shall I say. Summers Eve.
-Mad TV-

In other words, I agree.

Great response, I like a great sense of humor.