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| Racy Ol' Lady ![]() | An Eye (Contact) for an Eye By Suzanne Fields The men and women who shake us down at the airport are getting a crash course in Muslim culture. A training DVD that runs for 45 minutes tackles such "sensitive" questions as why Arabs often avoid looking someone in the eye. An agent of the Homeland Security Administration questioning a suspected terrorist, for example, may regard dropped eyes as evidence of suspicious behavior, suggesting the suspect is hiding something. But now he must confront his own ignorance. He's told that Arab culture considers it impolite to stare. (So does ours, as any toddler is told, again and again.) Such sensitivity may be polite, but it may blind the officer to his own intuition and the sum of his experience. It's entirely possible that the suspect has learned to stare a policeman down, just as the 9/11 terrorists learned to eat pizza and enjoy the scenery at strip joints. We've come a long way from the heroic mythmaking of "Tales of the Arabian Nights," of Scheherezade and Lawrence of Arabia, and that's no doubt good in its own way. Nevertheless, looking for insights through cultural relativism is exercising what President Bush might call "the soft bigotry of false expectations." "The reason we prepared [the DVD] is because our front-line officers were asking for training on how to interact with people from the Arab and Muslim world," says Daniel Sutherland, the agency's officer for civil rights and civil liberties. He insists that the motivation for this sensitivity training is protecting the nation, not the feelings of terror suspects. A federal prosecutor says he learned through his investigations that interviewers elicit more information by making nice, such as calling him "sir" rather than showing antagonism, like "barking orders." This sounds like the familiar good cop, bad cop routine, except that there's no "bad" cop when we really need one. Such superficial approaches may reap occasional rewards, but such approaches rely on stereotypes that brush experience aside and cloud good judgment. What we need is not a DVD but a better, deeper understanding of Islam without the politically correct lecture if we're really serious about containing jihad. "Our cultural relativism leads us to suppose that Islam is compatible with Western civilization, but the historical evidence is rather against that proposition," writes historian Daniel Johnson in The New Criterion. Mr. Johnson and other revisionist historians are re-evaluating what we thought about the role of the Islamic faith as dictated by Mohammed, who lived in a time when church and state were one. Not only did the Mohammed say, "There is no god but Allah," but he ordered his followers to insist, at the point of the sword, that everybody else say that, too. Mohammed proclaimed himself not only the messenger of G-d, but ruler and warlord as well. "In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty," writes Ibn Khaldun, a Muslim historian, in the 14th century. Our fathers and grandfathers were not so politically correct. The ashes of Nazi war criminals executed at Nuremberg were scattered to the wind, and the bunker where Hitler died is unmarked in Berlin, under a parking lot. There would be no shrines. But whatever is left of a suicide bomber is frequently sent to his or her family, and the Muslim authorities encourage shrines to inspire more suicide bombers. The six Muslim imams who were taken off the USAir flight in Minneapolis have become Islamic heroes in our own country. They insist the airline "discriminated" against them for merely reciting their prayers. Airline employees say the imams were shouting their prayers, as if trying to frighten and intimidate other passengers. (Is Allah hard of hearing?) Western historians once described life for religious minorities in the Ottoman Empire as a "golden age" of freedom. This romantic idealization clouded our understanding of Islam for decades. Now we learn that Jewish and Christian subjects of the Ottoman Empire suffered humiliation under the "dhimmi code," where they were "free" to worship as they pleased as long as they pleased the Muslim authorities, who drew up tortuous legal restrictions. The new confrontation between East and West, like confrontations in the past, is not necessarily "a clash of civilizations." Rather it is what the historian Daniel Johnson describes as "the attempt to impose a theocratic religion upon a secular civilization." Jihad is an obligation, to be pursued by different means, including speech, dress and the sword. This is the kind of war for which we are completely unprepared. Foolishly avoiding eye contact, which will be perceived as an act of cowardice, along with other "sensitivities" that will send signals of weakness, will have a crucial impact on whether we win or lose. Suzanne Fields
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| Non-Commissioned Officer ![]() | 9/11 never forgive. There is your "sensitivities".
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| Racy Ol' Lady ![]() | This country has become so forgetful, Ed. The problem seems to be remembering anything for more than a week. If it's instant gratification, of course, that's different. Unfortunately, 911 was not pleasant or gratifying (except to the enemy), so it's "best forgotten." War is unpleasant, and God knows it certainly is. I hate it and can't argue with who also hate it. But the suggestion of cutting and running that so appeals to "us" today is really defeat. It tells the enemy we fear them and find ourselves unable to cope with them and their war. Not making eye contact in the Mid East, among these people, is wisest if you're a woman traveling alone. I found that out very quickly. It didn't get me into trouble, but I realized immediately that it was a good way to get into trouble if I were looking for it. So, when they come here, do we follow their rules? Hell no! We should always remember who we are in this land and act like the free people we are. We have our own interpretation of people who won't look us in the eye. Let's keep it that way when here. As this article points out: Quote:
[Emphasis mine.] For 1400 years,this has been their intention - to impose their theocratic religion on western civilization. And we had better accept that and send signals that we are and will remain a free people, and that we do not have a theocratic government and don't intend to bow to theirs and become part of it. We need to do that -- not to give in, step by step until we are indeed a part of it!
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| Monkey Mouse ![]() | Quote:
Not looking someone in the eye can easily mean they are acknowledging authority.
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| Non-Commissioned Officer ![]() | Quote:
"What ya lookin' at boy?" I'v a couple of wise cracks that have almost gotten me into trouble. "I always wanted to look my turd in the eye." "Dad? I THOUGHT that was you!" drop trou. "Does this look like a 'boy' to you son?" -do NOT do this unless in jail, or else you'd end up there real fast- LOL!! And a host of others. Personally, I've always viewed that 'eye' thing as just a reason to be an ass.
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