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Old 10-06-2006, 18:16   #1 (permalink)
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Default Lying is AOK in islam

We all know islam says it's ok to lie. Now, the US has fell for the oldest game in the book. "I'll tell you what you want, then do what I desire."

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Abbas Tells US PA Will Recognize Israel, Says Opposite on PA TV
15:22 Oct 06, '06 / 14 Tishrei 5767
by Hana Levi Julian


Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas said this week he would ‘fire Hamas’ if the terror group won’t recognize Israel, but sang a different tune on PA TV.

Abbas convinced U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that he is sincere in his commitment to force the PA government to formally acknowledge the Jewish State’s right to exist, said the Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) Thursday.
Sounds good eh? FINALLY a 'right to exist'.

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On PA TV, however, Abbas said “It is not required of Hamas, or of Fatah, or of the Popular Front to recognize Israel.” Abbas is the head of the Fatah party and terror organization, which is currently the minority faction in the PA legislature.

“I do not demand of Hamas nor any other to recognize Israel,” said Abbas in Arabic, “but from the government that works with Israelis in day to day life, yes.”
Wait, did you not tell Rice that you WOULD let Israel be recognized?

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Rice said she was impressed with the PA leader’s political acumen after their meeting this week. “We have great admiration for you and your leadership,” she said, and committed the U.S. to “redouble efforts” to help PA Arabs.
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Old 10-06-2006, 18:27   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Lying is AOK in islam

It's okay to lie to an infidel, yes. That's not only allowed, it's encouraged, I've been told.
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Old 10-06-2006, 18:30   #3 (permalink)
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As have I. Not by the 'media' or some forum. Straight from the mouths of my co-workers.


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Old 10-06-2006, 20:25   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Lying is AOK in islam

I think your missing the point he's a politician they're genetically predisposed to lie! The economies safe in our hands, we will cut taxes, we will spend tax revenues wisely, etc. All politicians tell the audience they're talking too what they think they want to hear, its a matter of political survival.

Its said that Guy Fawkes was the only man to enter the Houses of Parliament with honest intentions.
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I think your missing the point he's a politician they're genetically predisposed to lie! The economies safe in our hands, we will cut taxes, we will spend tax revenues wisely, etc. All politicians tell the audience they're talking too what they think they want to hear, its a matter of political survival.

Its said that Guy Fawkes was the only man to enter the Houses of Parliament with honest intentions.
I think over here that would be Harry Truman - but we won't discuss Harry. I believe you have a valid point about politicians, Chris.
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"I did NOT have sex with that woman."

Well, I DID, but she was my wife.
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Politician lies is correct.
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Default Re: Lying is AOK in islam

President Reagan once said, "Politics is the second oldest profession in the world, and unfortunately, it bears a strong resemblance to the oldest profession in the world."

As for lying is OK in Islam, it's very true as long as you're lying to a non-Muslim. I'll find the Suras for this. I just got Dawood's latest English translation last week.
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