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Old 06-04-2004, 14:23   #1 (permalink)
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Default Welcome to the brave new world of obesity litigation.

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Litigation Won’t Make America Thinner


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In the hours after midnight, cable TV is saturated with ads for diet pills promising big and easy weight loss and ads for law firms promising big and easy legal judgments and settlements.

Until recently, there was no direct connection between the two groups trolling for customers, but leave it to America’s trial lawyers to find one.

Welcome to the brave new world of obesity litigation.

In terms of questionable lawsuits and potential big paydays for lawyers, obesity litigation is shaping up as the successor to tobacco. Lawsuits against that industry netted a cool $250 billion in legal fees over and above what the tobacco companies, or rather, their consumers, paid in negotiated settlements with individual states.

The obesity bar is licking its chops over the prospects of creating a similar bonanza by finding clients to sue fast food companies, like McDonald’s, with deep pockets and a huge stake in protecting their wholesome public image. But to lay the groundwork for successful lawsuits, the lawyers have to convince Americans to dismiss the idea that they have any personal responsibility for controlling their weight through sensible eating and exercise.

If we are carrying around some extra cellulite — and millions of us are — it’s not our fault, the lawyers say. We’re the victims of the pernicious fast food industry, just as surely as if we were abducted at gun-point and force fed Big Macs and super-sized fries.

This bizarre reasoning got a Hollywood boost this month from the release of Morgan Spurlock’s propaganda film "Super Size Me." Spurlock records his adventures as he literally stuffs himself full of McDonald’s food three times daily, gobbling up approximately twice the calories the typical Mickey D customer consumes at each sitting. After a solid month of binge eating — during which Spurlock scrupulously avoided exercise — we get the shocking news that he put on 24 pounds and raised his cholesterol level.

The point of this occasionally funny, sometimes vulgar movie, of course, is not that people are responsible for the consequences of their own behavior. No. "Super Size Me" is an attempt to demonize McDonald’s as an enabler of obesity, which has the trial bar seeing green.

For the sake of art, no doubt, Spurlock’s film ignores the fact that he could have ordered diet soda, fresh green salads and other healthy fare that have been added to the menu at McDonald’s and every other fast-food chain. Those choices are there because the public wants them and the restaurant industry is eagerly responding. That’s the way free enterprise works.

And to state the obvious, Spurlock could have staved off weight gain if he had only eaten traditional McDonald’s fare at the rate of 2,500 to 3,000 calories a day instead of the 5,000 to 5,500 calories he elected to pack in each 24-hour period.

Then again, details like that bore the audience. Apparently he felt theater patrons would be more entertained by the rectal examination and vomiting scenes that made the final cut.

In fairness to Spurlock, the man has no experience as a nutritionist or as a social crusader. He’s in the entertainment business, and his recent credits include an MTV program called "I Bet You Will." On that one, Spurlock dared guests to do revolting things on camera. Some of the challenges involved eating, like the lady he paid $100 to eat a Madagascar hissing cockroach or the man who was awarded $25 for eating a clam out of a stranger’s armpit.

Maybe those antics inspired him to think he could earn a lot more than he paid his guests by eating himself sick on camera for a month and dressing it up as a social statement. Meanwhile, the rest of us, lawyers included, can do something about the very real health problem of obesity by taking responsibility for our own actions, and understanding that we really are what and how much we eat.
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Old 06-04-2004, 15:02   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Welcome to the brave new world of obesity litigation.

I hope the lawyers don't forget the automotive industry as sub targets of litigation. SUV's & mini vans make it a lot more comfortable for overweight people to get around. The windows in those vehicles make it so much easier at the pick up window because they are at the level to simply reach across & not have to stretch reaching up. I'm not sure but I think it is illegal to actually get out & walk in to order. All is not lost when the "cook" gets home. The kids get some exersize climbing into & out of them to get thier meal. It must be exhausting getting in so they eat in the vehicle watching videos in the back seat while chowing down on those super sized meals. Yep I can see that the automotive industry is contributing heavily to obesity.

Not everything is wrong with owning an SUV I've seen advertisements where some of them you can actually take a garden hose & wash out the inside. Imagine how convenient that can be. When the video is done & the kids get done eating their happy meal if any of the greasy food managed to get slopped onto the seats, no problem! simply hose out the vehicle. Of course an allowance has to be paid to the child that has the chore of gathering up the styrofoam & bags that the meal came in. Picking up all the trash & actually walking a few more steps to where the garbage can is might be considered child abuse. Now we have the chance to sue garbage can manufactures for not making garbage cans suitable for being close to where the children eat.

While all this might seem negative aren't parents that do that trying to develope some sense of responsibility in their children? The ACLU could look at children's rights & file an action on their behalf. I think though the payment of an allowance should show the courts that the parents aren't abusing their children.
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Old 06-04-2004, 15:55   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Welcome to the brave new world of obesity litigation.

You know, Brian, I'm beginning to really worry about you! I'm afraid you'll forget you have your tongue in your cheek one day and bit it off! LOL! I love your comment on this!

You make good points and serve them with a chuckle.
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Old 06-04-2004, 19:23   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Welcome to the brave new world of obesity litigation.

Hey Brian, love that tongue in cheek! You know, we really should be looking at the architects who design those fast food places with the drive throughs and the windows. What about the people who lay the asphalt the cars drive on to the window? They're making it too easy too!
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Old 06-07-2004, 11:35   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Welcome to the brave new world of obesity litigation.



What's next? (besides Brian K's excellent post?!)
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Maybe I can sue Budweiser for all the ugly women I've woken up next to!!!!
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