Muslim cleric who tried to establish training camp in Oregon

[Woodmonkey]

Another one who operated in my state

U.S. Indicts Muslim Cleric for Supporting Al Qaeda

By Gail Appleson

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The United States on Thursday indicted a radical Muslim cleric who was arrested in London in a pre-dawn raid on charges of hostage-taking and providing support to al Qaeda, officials said.

The 11-count indictment filed by U.S. prosecutors in Manhattan federal court charged Abu Hamza al-Masri with hostage taking in connection with an attack in Yemen in December 1998 that resulted in the death of four hostages.

In the United States, a charge of hostage-taking carries the death penalty or life imprisonment, which could complicate any efforts to extradite him from Britain, which has abolished the death penalty. Abu Hamza faces up to 100 years in prison for the other charges.

The indictment, which was returned by a federal grand jury on April 19, also charges Abu Hamza with providing material support to the Islamic militant group al Qaeda, which was responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, hijacked plane attacks on New York and Washington and other attacks around the world.

The indictment said he tried to help al Qaeda establish a training camp in Bly, Oregon, ((out in the boonies and away from prying eyes ) from October 1999 to early 2000.

The charges were announced by U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft at a news conference in New York.

Ashcroft on Wednesday warned of a potential attack on the United States in the next few months and put the public on alert for seven individuals associated with al Qaeda, not including Abu Hamza.

Abu Hamza -- a hate figure for British tabloids, who has one eye and a steel hook in place of his right hand after being wounded fighting in Afghanistan -- was stripped of his British nationality a year ago on allegations he supported terrorism.

In April, he won nine more months to appeal against the decision. He denies any formal links to al Qaeda.

The cleric preached holy war, openly admired Osama bin Laden and applauded the Sept. 11 attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

His case could lead to a lengthy legal battle over extradition. British officials could not immediately clarify whether the charges in the United States or Britain would take precedence. And Yemen, where the cleric's son has served prison time on terrorism charges, has also long sought his extradition.

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[se0sea]

heck,the scum from 9/11 that trained here in fla. went out every night.their faces were seen everywhere.they were cocky.

[Woodmonkey]

Originally Posted by se0sea

heck,the scum from 9/11 that trained here in fla. went out every night.their faces were seen everywhere.they were cocky.

I remember reading that. They got drunk, bought prostitutes, went to strip shows and indulged in porn....just you average good Muslim!

Where they tried to set up a training camp is isolated and off the beaten path. People do target practice all the time so guns could be shot off and no one would pay attention. People also blow up tree stumps etc, so that noise wouldn't be out of the ordinary either. It was a good plan. If I recall correctly, they didn't account for people in areas like that being observant.

[Snowden]

By Woodmonkey: I remember reading that. They got drunk, bought prostitutes, went to strip shows and indulged in porn....just you average good Muslim!

Now, Woodmonkey - you know that was just part of their cover! Everybody knows a good terrorist would be careful because he wants those 72 white grapes! Well, we're told it's "72 virgins," but the same Arabic word means "white grapes."

So - the big question is "What will they find when they get there? Virgins, or white grapes?"

Yes, really; the same word. Maybe this will be Mohammad's surprise.

[kruser79]

I can see the t-shirts now,"I went to insert name of place of demise here, blew myself up, and all I got were these lousy grapes!"

[Woodmonkey]

So - the big question is "What will they find when they get there? Virgins, or white grapes?"

I can see the t-shirts now,"I went to insert name of place of demise here, blew myself up, and all I got were these lousy grapes!"

You two are a great comedy act!