Yet another book attacks the war...

[odannyboy]

WASHINGTON - President Bush quietly ordered creation of a war plan against Iraq in November 2001 while overseeing a divided national security team, including a vice president determined to link Saddam Hussein to al-Qaida, says a new book.



Bob Woodward, in "Plan of Attack," says Secretary of State Colin Powell believed Vice President Dick Cheney developed — as Woodward puts it — an "unhealthy fixation" on trying to find a connection between Iraq and the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Bush dismissed such characterizations of Cheney. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the book, which will be available in bookstores next week and covers the 16 months leading to the March 2003 invasion.


Bush told Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Nov. 21, 2001 — less than two months after U.S. forces attacked Afghanistan — to prepare for possible war with Iraq, and kept some members of his closest circle in the dark, Woodward said. In an interview with the author, Bush said he feared that if news had gotten out about the Iraq plan as America was fighting another conflict, that would cause "enormous international angst and domestic speculation." "I knew what would happen if people thought we were developing a potential war plan for Iraq," Bush is quoted as saying. "It was such a high-stakes moment and ... it would look like that I was anxious to go to war. And I'm not anxious to go to war." Asked Friday about that Nov. 21, 2001, meeting with Rumsfeld, the president said, "I can't remember dates that far back" but emphasized "it was Afghanistan that was on my mind and I didn't really start focusing on Iraq 'til later on."

The White House later confirmed the discussion with Rumsfeld but said it did not mean Bush was set on a course of attacking Iraq at that point. Bush and his aides have denied they were preoccupied with Iraq at the cost of paying attention to the al-Qaida terrorist threat before the Sept. 11 attacks. A commission investigating the attacks just concluded several weeks of extraordinary public testimony, during which former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke contended the Bush administration's determination to invade Iraq undermined the war on terror.


Woodward's account indicates some members of the administration, particularly Cheney, were focused on Saddam from the outset of Bush's presidency and even after the terrorist attacks made the destruction of al-Qaida the top priority. Without quoting them directly on the subject, Woodward portrays Cheney and Powell as barely on speaking terms — the vice president being the chief advocate for a war that the secretary of state was not sure needed to be fought.


He recounts the vice president and a defense official making remarks to others about Powell bragging about his popularity, and Powell saying Cheney was preoccupied with an Iraq-al-Qaida link. "Powell thought Cheney had the fever," Woodward writes. "He saw in Cheney a sad transformation. ... Cheney now had an unhealthy fixation."


On the war's origins, the book describes Bush pulling Rumsfeld into a cubbyhole office adjacent to the Situation Room for that November 2001 meeting and asking him what shape the Iraq war plan was in. When Rumsfeld said it was outdated, Bush ordered a fresh one. The book says Bush told Rumsfeld to keep quiet about their planning and when the defense secretary asked to bring CIA Director George Tenet into it at some point, the president said not to do so yet.

Even Bush's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice was apparently not fully briefed. Woodward said Bush told her that morning he was having Rumsfeld work on Iraq but did not give details. The book says Gen. Tommy Franks, who was in charge of the Afghan war as head of Central Command, uttered a string of obscenities when the Pentagon told him to come up with an Iraq war plan in the midst of fighting another conflict. Woodward, a Washington Post journalist who wrote an earlier book on Bush's anti-terrorism campaign and broke the Watergate scandal with Carl Bernstein, says the scope and intensity of the war plan grew even as administration officials were saying publicly that they were pursuing a diplomatic solution.

The book describes a CIA briefing for Bush in December 2002 presenting evidence of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Bush was not sure the public would find the information compelling, Woodward said, but when he turned to Tenet, the CIA chief assured him: "It's a slam-dunk case." That case fell apart after U.S. forces occupied Iraq and failed to find the stockpiles the administration said had been there.

[AndJusticeForAll]

2000 seems like a long time ago. In a way.

It's 2004.

We've been through alot. Time to decide where we go now.

[Caldric]

If Bush gets rid of Cheney, Rumsefeld, Wolfowitz I will vote for him in 2004. That is not going to happen though. I think Cheney has more power then Bush.

[cb88]

Who is Mr. Woodward? What are his sources and how do we know they are credible? This story does not state his background and forgive my ignorance, but I get tired of hearing the same old crap from the left, so if he's a name I should have heard in the news, I'm sure I've blocked it out.

I just like to know the validity of the source of something before I'd give it any credence.

[odannyboy]

Originally Posted by cb88

Who is Mr. Woodward? What are his sources and how do we know they are credible? This story does not state his background and forgive my ignorance, but I get tired of hearing the same old crap from the left, so if he's a name I should have heard in the news, I'm sure I've blocked it out.

I just like to know the validity of the source of something before I'd give it any credence.

Who is Bob Woodward?

He's the one on the right...........

[cb88]

Originally Posted by odannyboy

Who is Bob Woodward?

He's the one on the right...........

Right of what????

[JohnRN]

I don't care if the man is left, right or centre. I couldn't care less if he was Rep., Dem. Lib. or Ind. Is what he is saying true ?