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Old 04-15-2004, 20:18   #1 (permalink)
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Question European nations reject Bin Laden truce offer

Associated Press April 15, 2004BINLADEN16


CAIRO, Egypt -- A man identifying himself as Osama bin Laden offered a ``truce'' to European countries that do not attack Muslims, saying it would begin when their soldiers leave Islamic nations, according to a recording broadcast Thursday on Arab satellite networks.


Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain quickly spurned what appeared to be an attempt to drive a wedge between Europe and America.

The tape, which ran in full at more than seven minutes, also vowed revenge against America for the Israeli assassination of Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin and denounced the United States as using the Iraq war for corporate profiteering.

``I announce a truce with the European countries that do not attack Muslim countries,'' the taped message said as the stations showed an old, still picture of al-Qaida leader.

The message said ``the door to a truce is open for three months,'' but the time frame could be extended. ``The truce will begin when the last soldier leaves our countries,'' the speaker said without elaborating.

A CIA official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the agency conducted a technical analysis of the recording and concluded it is probably authentic. The official said the tape was likely recorded in the past several weeks because of its reference to Israel's killing of Yassin last month.

The tape made clear overtures to Europeans, calling them ``our neighbors north of the Mediterranean,'' and tried to drive a wedge between Europe and the United States.

Several audio and videotapes of al-Qaida's No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri, have been released in recent months, but Thursday's tape was the first purportedly from bin Laden since September. Then, a videotape showed bin Laden climbing down a craggy mountainside with al-Zawahri.

Ayman Gaballah, editor of Al-Arabiya, said only that the pan-Arab television network received the tape from ``our sources.'' He would not say if the tape was received at its headquarters in the United Arab Emirates or in a bureau elsewhere, such as Pakistan or Afghanistan.

``From the voice, it seems it is bin Laden, but we are not experts to confirm it,'' Gaballah said.

Al-Jazeera, a Qatar-based satellite station, also aired the tape in full. Its chief editor wasn't available for comment.

Sen. Joseph Biden, senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said on NBC's ``Today'' show that bin Laden was ``trying to separate us from the Europeans, and Europeans from the U.S. It's an example of how opportunistic he is.''

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., expressed skepticism about the offer made on the tape.

``You cannot negotiate with terrorists, especially someone like Osama bin Laden,'' Shelby told ``Today.''

In London, the Foreign Office ruled out any deal with al-Qaida.

``Their attacks are against the very idea of co-existence,'' the Foreign Office said. ``The right response is to continue to confront terrorism, not give in to its demands.''

A British opposition spokesman said the purported truce offered was a sign that the al-Qaida network is rattled.

``It is obviously an attempt by al-Qaida or the associates of al-Qaida, to try and drive a wedge between the coalition,'' said Michael Ancram, foreign affairs spokesman for the opposition Conservative Party.

``They are frightened about the effectiveness of the coalition,'' Ancram said in an interview with British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said in Rome that ``it's unthinkable that we may open a negotiation with bin Laden, everybody understands this.''

Germany is a leading contributor to the international peacekeeping force in Afghanistan. It opposed the Iraq war but is now helping train Iraqi police.

A German government spokesman said: ``There can be no negotiations with terrorists and serious criminals like Osama bin Laden.''

The voice on the tape defended al-Qaida's methods.

``They say that we kill for the sake of killing, but reality shows that they lie,'' the speaker said.

Russians, he said, were only killed after attacking Afghanistan in the 1980s and Chechnya, Europeans after invading Iraq and Afghanistan and the Americans in New York after ``supporting the Jews in Palestine and their invasion of the Arabian Peninsula.''

``Stop spilling our blood so we can stop spilling your blood,'' the message added. ``This is a difficult but easy equation.''

This truce, the message said, was to deny ``the warmongers'' further opportunities and because polls have shown that ``most of the European peoples want reconciliation'' with the Islamic world.

Germany rejected that notion.

``The international community must pursue the fight against international terrorism together,'' a government spokesman said on customary condition of anonymity. ``Germany will continue to make its contribution.''

In a reference to terror attacks on the United States and Spain, the voice on the tape said that ``what happened on Sept. 11 and March 11 was your goods delivered back to you.''

``Security is a need for all humans and we could not let you have a monopoly on it for yourselves,'' the voice added. ``People who are aware would not let their politicians jeopardize their security.''

At the start of the recording, the voice called this a ``message to our neighbors north of the Mediterranean, including a reconciliation initiative in response to the recent positive developments that have appeared.''

It did not give any specifics, but the March 11 attacks in Madrid that killed 191 people and increasing violence in Iraq have prompted debate in Europe and Asia about keeping troops there.

Spain's outgoing Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's government, which strongly backed the U.S.-led war in Iraq despite popular and political opposition, was ousted in general elections three days after the attacks in Spain.

Incoming Socialist leader Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero has pledged to withdraw Spain's 1,300 troops from Iraq by June 30 unless the United Nations takes control.

However, his incoming government rejected the offer of a truce with al-Qaida. Spain's incoming foreign minister, Miguel Angel Moratinos, speaking at his nation's parliament, said: ``What we want is peace, democracy and freedom. We don't have to listen to or answer'' the tape.
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Old 04-15-2004, 20:42   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: European nations reject Bin Laden truce offer

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It did not give any specifics, but the March 11 attacks in Madrid that killed 191 people and increasing violence in Iraq have prompted debate in Europe and Asia about keeping troops there.
This brings to mind that old saying, "You can run, but you can't hide." Whether or not they take their troops from Madrid or anywhere else, when the time is ripe, bin Laden or whoever is the leader of the band at that time will find them and will take over their country if at all possible.

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Old 04-15-2004, 21:14   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: European nations reject Bin Laden truce offer

OBL, in making such an "offer," is either a rather brassy fellow, or, a really terrible judge of character if he believes that Europeans are a cowardly lot.
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Old 04-15-2004, 22:25   #4 (permalink)
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OBL, in making such an "offer," is either a rather brassy fellow, or, a really terrible judge of character if he believes that Europeans are a cowardly lot.
I question the legitimacy of it really being him. And if it was, did he really think that the countires in Europe would roll over that easy?
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CIA says voice on tape is probably bin Laden’s
April 15, 2004
By Ken Guggenheim
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The CIA said Thursday that a tape of a man identifying himself as Osama bin Laden probably is an authentic recording of the al-Qaida leader.

A CIA official said it conducted a technical analysis of the voice on the tape, which was broadcast Thursday on Arab satellite networks.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the tape was probably recorded in the past several weeks because of its reference to Israel’s killing March 22 of Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin. In the tape, the speaker vows revenge against the United States for the killing. He offered a “truce” to European countries that do not attack Muslims. The tape ran more than seven minutes.

The message said “the door to a truce is open for three months,” but that the time frame could be extended. “The truce will begin when the last soldier leaves our countries,” the speaker said without elaborating.

Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain quickly rejected the offer. The CIA official said the tape appeared to be an attempt by bin Laden or his al-Qaida network to drive a wedge between the United States and its allies.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan, traveling with President Bush aboard Air Force One, said the “intelligence community has confirmed that it’s likely” bin Laden’s voice on the tape, which he said was “a clear reminder that we are still at war on terrorism.”

“It’s a clear reminder that terrorists will use any excuse to carry out their attacks on innocent people,” McClellan said.

Secretary of State Colin Powell also said the tape appears to be authentic.

Powell told Polish public television “This is a time for all of us to be ever more resolute and say to Osama bin Laden, ‘No, we will not listen to any of these demands. You are the one who is wrong. You are the one who must be brought to justice.’”
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