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Old 04-08-2004, 15:56   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: "bin Laden determend to attack inside the United States"

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You cannot just walk in and tell an entire institution (or what was left after being gutted) to ramp up, do an about-face and expect that everyone will suddenly hold hands and sing hootenanny songs by the campfire.

Why so much animosity and blamesmanship with everything?

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Because that's the Democratic/liberal media/John F. Kerry way.
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Old 04-08-2004, 17:49   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: "bin Laden determend to attack inside the United States"

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I want to use it to get to the truth.
What if the "truth" you seek isn't what YOU want to hear?

bd is right, as is Brian, Paul and Vicky...
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Old 04-08-2004, 18:02   #10 (permalink)
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That memo (once declassified) could have the opposite information you are hoping for. It could just be that Bush would LOVE to have it released because it has damaging info about Dems. One never knows...kinda like a tootsiepop!
Yes, now that you mention it, cb; so that makes me rather curious too. I do remember seeing a picture of President Bush when he was told of the twin towers being hit. He was in shock.

He's not an actor. I'm inclined to believe very strongly that he had a general warning only. Despite the first attack on the WTC, nobody expected another hit on that target. Our military was in bad shape because of so many years of downsizing and lack of proper weapons. Voted against by the current JFK, by the way. Then he screams because the men don't have the proper weapons.

No one person is responsible for the downsizing, but the troops did a magnificent job with what they had. They still are doing a magnificent job. This mess with Es Sadr's followers will be squelched too.

As for bin Laden's determination to attack the US, it was old news by the time Bush was in office.
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Old 04-08-2004, 18:12   #11 (permalink)
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Yes, now that you mention it, cb; so that makes me rather curious too. I do remember seeing a picture of President Bush when he was told of the twin towers being hit. He was in shock.

He's not an actor. I'm inclined to believe very strongly that he had a general warning only. Despite the first attack on the WTC, nobody expected another hit on that target. Our military was in bad shape because of so many years of downsizing and lack of proper weapons. Voted against by the current JFK, by the way. Then he screams because the men don't have the proper weapons.

No one person is responsible for the downsizing, but the troops did a magnificent job with what they had. They still are doing a magnificent job. This mess with Es Sadr's followers will be squelched too.

As for bin Laden's determination to attack the US, it was old news by the time Bush was in office.
Very well stated, snowden.

(ps... I just noted on your profile, you are about the age my mom would have been this Sunday...unless that's an error...your generation shows in the eloquence of your posts. You are full of grace. )
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Very well stated, snowden.

(ps... I just noted on your profile, you are about the age my mom would have been this Sunday...unless that's an error...your generation shows in the eloquence of your posts. You are full of grace. )
Thank you, cb. The profile is correct; I'll be 74 this July. I'm sorry you don't still have your mother with you; I think she would be more than well pleased with you. If I had a daughter, I think I'd be so very happy to have her like you.

I'd like to give you some karma - I know nothing about this "karma," except that you are a lovely young woman and I'd like to hug you. Would that do for me to give you some karma?
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Thank you, cb. The profile is correct; I'll be 74 this July. I'm sorry you don't still have your mother with you; I think she would be more than well pleased with you. If I had a daughter, I think I'd be so very happy to have her like you.

I'd like to give you some karma - I know nothing about this "karma," except that you are a lovely young woman and I'd like to hug you. Would that do for me to give you some karma?
Thanks. That makes me happy. My mom would have been 74 this Sunday (easter) as well. She's been gone almost 16 years now and I miss her ever so much. She was a very gracious woman.

(I'd give you more karma, but I already gave some to you on the islam thread)

You, have no doubt, witnessed first hand much of the history we discuss in these forums today.
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(I'd give you more karma, but I already gave some to you on the islam thread)
I gave her some for you!!
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