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Old 03-25-2005, 14:19   #1 (permalink)
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Default Canada Denies Asylum To U.S. Army Deserter


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Canada Denies Asylum To U.S. Army Deserter


By Doug Struck
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, March 25, 2005; Page A13


TORONTO, March 24 -- A board hearing Canada's refugee cases rejected a bid Thursday for asylum by a U.S. Army deserter who refused to go to Iraq, raising legal roadblocks to the growing trickle of American servicemen fleeing north of the border.

The board ruled that Jeremy Hinzman, 26, could not argue that he would be unfairly persecuted in the United States for refusing to serve in what he said was an illegal war.

Hinzman, a parachute-trained specialist from Rapid City, S.D., served in Afghanistan but fled from Fort Bragg, N.C., and entered Canada in January 2004 after his unit, the 82nd Airborne Division, was given orders to deploy to Iraq.

"Our hands were tied by not being able to argue the legality of the war," Hinzman told several dozen demonstrators, including two other American deserters, who gathered outside the U.S. Consulate after the decision. Now working as a bicycle courier, Hinzman cycled up after work, to chants of "War resisters welcome here."

His attorney, Jeffry House, said nine other servicemen had started the asylum application process and he estimated there were "about 100" in hiding in Canada.

"Obviously we are disappointed," House said. "We certainly are not giving up. We believe the decision is wrong, and we will appeal it."

House said the ruling was a setback for those fleeing the war, but that it didn't "make those cases unwinnable."

The decision came two weeks after the arrival of another serviceman, who served eight months in Iraq before fleeing to Canada with his wife and four young children. Army Pfc. Joshua Key, 26, served as a combat engineer in Fallujah and Ramadi, located in the violent Sunni Triangle area, before deserting while home on leave.

In Canada, he told reporters he refused to return to Iraq because of "the atrocities that were happening to the innocent people of Iraq."

Hinzman, whose case is the first to be decided by the refugee board, tried to raise similar arguments, but the board refused to hear those claims, along with those that he would be persecuted for following his conscience. But the board noted that the United States, as a democracy, would give Hinzman "full protection of a fair and independent . . . judicial process" if he returned to face trial.

Hinzman initially applied for non-combat, conscientious-objector status in the Army, but was denied. The refugee board said "Mr. Hinzman was no doubt guided by his moral code" in refusing to serve, but that he failed the test of a refugee fleeing persecution. The board found that his likely punishment in the United States would not be "not excessive or disproportionately severe."

The case had been followed closely in Canada, where public sentiment was overwhelmingly opposed to the invasion of Iraq. House, Hinzman's attorney, fled the Vietnam War in 1970, and Hinzman was supported by other former Vietnam resisters who stayed in Canada.


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Old 03-25-2005, 14:39   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Canada Denies Asylum To U.S. Army Deserter

My only thoughts concerning this are
1. They are not 49 years OLD like me !
2. They are active military members who are undermining what the uniform means !
3. Regardless, If you wear the uniform of any military service from any country, YOU are expected to perform your duty !
4. They DESERTED and like I said, Regardless of each mans reason, They took an OATH to defend our country against all enemies !

In retrospect, Let them ROT in HELL and I'll take there place on the line !

I guess no one sees whats happing to our country these days, We dont need this and for each trooper out in the line who is DOING there job, These men are COWARDS ! PLAIN AND SIMPLE !

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Old 03-25-2005, 17:22   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Canada Denies Asylum To U.S. Army Deserter

The fact of the matter is that too meny youngsters ar joining the Military specifically for tuition assistance, without a thought about the possibility of war.
Guess what? Now they want to take the cowards approach and run to Canada.

A little advise to those who are thinking of enlisting:Do not join the Military if you don't believe in war! That is the primary mission of the Armed Forces!
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Old 03-25-2005, 17:39   #4 (permalink)
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My only thoughts concerning this are
1. They are not 49 years OLD like me !
2. They are active military members who are undermining what the uniform means !
3. Regardless, If you wear the uniform of any military service from any country, YOU are expected to perform your duty !
4. They DESERTED and like I said, Regardless of each mans reason, They took an OATH to defend our country against all enemies !

In retrospect, Let them ROT in HELL and I'll take there place on the line !

I guess no one sees whats happing to our country these days, We dont need this and for each trooper out in the line who is DOING there job, These men are COWARDS ! PLAIN AND SIMPLE !

Phoenix56

SCOUTS OUT AND FOREVER FORWARD SIR !
I agree word for word.

I am 21 and joined not for money or school... I joined to serve the flag and do so gladly... These kind of people are a disgrace to themselves. I say sentence them to permenent KP duty , but that would be to easy.. let them rot
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Old 03-25-2005, 19:35   #5 (permalink)
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[size=-1]Hinzman, a parachute-trained specialist from Rapid City, S.D., served in Afghanistan but fled from Fort Bragg, N.C., and entered Canada in January 2004 after his unit, the 82nd Airborne Division, was given orders to deploy to Iraq.
All of that training didn't give him a clue that the Army trains for war?

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"Our hands were tied by not being able to argue the legality of the war," ...
Where did he get the idea that the Army is a debate club?

They are deserters and cowards. In a more realistic time, they would have been hung or shot.
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The next Dem prez will pardon them.
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The next Dem prez will pardon them.
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