Why Islam is Not Considered Hate?

[cato2]

I received this article in a newsletter, and the source of this story is from a conservative news source. It is a guest writer that wrote the piece.

I think it is a very thought provoking article and perhaps bordering on racial and cultural hatred. My own personal experiences here where I live with the Arab community is one where they do not believe the average American even understands what is happening in the Middle East. I think they base this view on the fact that they have contacts within the countries of Islam if not having lived or even emigrated from Muslim countries themselves.

I think most of us come from Christian based religions and perhaps do not have any exposure if minimal with this. I am curious to see what others have experienced with the local Arab community in their area.

Why Islam is Not Considered Hate?

By Pete Fisher
MichNews.com
Jan 11, 2005

With all the laws in place in this nation concerning Hate Crimes, it amazes me that we allow Islam to not only be practiced in this nation, but we allow it in our school systems.

We have recently seen 4 Christian protestors arrested for carrying scriptural signs against homosexuals. We see anything that resembles inflammatory speech shut down and legally dealt with whether it comes from Nazis, KKK members, Aryans, White Supremacists, etc.

A hate crime can be committed either by speech or action in this nation. Yet we allow the influx of a religion that espouses hatred and slaughter wholesale worldwide and the authority they claim to behave as such comes straight from their Quran.

90%-95% OF ALL THE CONFLICTS ON THIS PLANET TODAY INVOLVE MUSLIMS FIGHTING NON-MUSLIMS OR EACH OTHER!

Now I have heard all the arguments by those who consider themselves “peaceful” Muslims. I have also read the Quran and seen the abominations written therein and the criminal acts espoused and commanded throughout the writings.

We see the atrocities committed against Christians in several African nations, Egyptian Copts, Jordanian Christians, Iraqi Christians, Eastern Europe, the Netherlands, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the Philippines, and Indonesia.(article concerning presence in RomeEurope’s Muslims worry bishops


We see the enslavement of mostly Africans, and the genocides in Sudan. We can walk through the Middle East and see how many slaves are performing domestic duties for their Arab masters. Any yet, all I hear in America is how peaceful this religion is.

They might be more apt to being peaceful in America due to our freedom and laws that would not tolerate such criminal behavior. But given enough time and the pouring in of Islamic immigrants, I believe this will change. Take a look at the town, Hamtramck, in Michigan that allows them to publicly announce prayer over loud speakers. Yet Christians cannot even walk with protest signs without fear of being arrested. Why are we so tolerant of a religion that is basically not a indigenous religion? And why are we so tolerant of a religionthat espouses such violent behavior and acts of cruelty?

I recently saw a report with Muhammad Hisham Kabbani of the Islamic Supreme Council of America. In Kabbani's reliable estimation, such "extremists" have "taken over 80 percent of the mosques" in the United States. And not just the mosques: schools, youth groups, community centers, political organizations, professional associations, and commercial enterprises also tend to share a militant outlook, hostile to the present non-militant Islamic society in this nation.

We also see the CAIR organization coming out with some questionable comments. Take a look at some of these:

At the Islamic Association of Palestine's third annual convention in Chicago in November 1999, CAIR President Omar Ahmad gave a speech at a youth session praising suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam." "Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam — that is not suicide. They kill themselves for Islam“, he said.

“Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

This was the statement of Omar M. Ahmad, the Chairman of the Board of the Council on American-Islamic Relations or CAIR, at an Islamic conference held in Freemont, California, in July of 1998.

We see that at least 80% of all mosques in America are led by militant clerics who preach violence against America and her allies. Not only is this a hate crime in and of itself, it is inflammatory and treasonous. So why are we not treating this as a treasonous entity? Even something such as the Nation of Islam, how can one actually claim to be a separate nation within a sovereign nation without being treated as treasonous?

We see that in many areas of the globe, any time a Islamic entity becomes part of a society, they begin to contemplate how to force it into Islam. While in Australia I saw several cases of rape and other crimes committed against Australian women due to the fact that the Muslim males who assaulted them deemed them as *****s and ****s because of the way they dressed. In one highly publicized case of rape, the mother of one of the rapists was astounded her son was even on trial, because after all, the Australian girl
dressed like a **** and “asked for it”! They refuse to realize when they leave their own despotic nations and move into a non-Islamic society, that THEY are the foreigners and must adapt to that nations culture, not
infuse and eventually dominate it.

Yet in the Philippines it is being done. Muslims moved into an area and refused to take orders from a Catholic government. Now they turn to murder, terror, rape, and general mayhem to be bale to get their own little piece of sovereignty. So how long fellow citizens, will it be before they attempt to do this in America?

When we hear leaders of CAIR and other Muslim organizations speaking of violence and cavorting with terror organizations,(Anti CAIR site) (though CAIR will dispute this, it has been shown they have and do), when will we see the agenda of global domination come to this nation full swing?

How much would we save in tax money if we simply outlawed this violent cult and called it for what it is? I don’t care that there may be a handful of Muslims who do not subscribe to the violent nature of Mohammed and his writings. The fact remains that it commands and espouses violence and domination. So why do we allow it exist? And why do we allow it to be taught in our schools? If walking with a protest sign is a crime simply because the signs have scripture against homosexuality, why do we allow a cult that is commanded to dominate, kill, and enslave Christians, Jews, and anyone else they deem below their religious fantasy?

Are we prepared to fight them within our borders when they decide to assault our society? Are we prepared to watch our children grow up and fight our own soldiers in a perceived Islamic notion of martyrdom as did John Walker Lindh?

I say we should never allow it to become this strong. Not to even allow someone who calls for slavery, for murder, for complete and total domination. After all, they deem it necessary in Muslim nations to keep only Islam as religion and killing anyone who disagrees or practices differently. Why cannot we do this? I will never believe the framers of our Constitution ever meant freedom of religion to include any cult or philosophy that espoused such evil.

I could just as easily form my own religion that called upon the annihilation of Muslims, or Jews, or politicians, and could even use the exact Quranic versus to justify it. I also bet it would be shot down and outlawed as fast as it became public. Because it would be a hateful and violent cult, and therefore considered a dangerous entity.

I say we begin our own jihad against this abhorrent cult and get it out of society before it becomes the Trojan Horse it aspires to become.

They are within the gates of our society, and we should label them as Hate Group as well as eliminate their teachings from our schools. Unless they like our society and desire to abandon their Quran and public worship in replace of a religion that is not violent, these people should be held to the same standards as any other criminal who spews hatred and violence.

We will never be equal in the eyes of Islam. We will always be inferior and according to Quran, a prime candidate for domination by Islam. We will always be Infidels, we will always be their enemy.

So would any of us, knowing someone wanted us and our families dead, invite them to live in our spare

bedroom? Of course not. But we as a society have done exactly that. We allow those who desire our death and enslavement to live next door. To participate in politics and in our educational system.

We have allowed the Spartans to come bearing gifts. Will we also close the gates behind us and watch them burn the city as we sleep?
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[Snowden]

Good thread, Cato - in my opinion, at least. Here's the clue to it all, I believe:

“Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

This was the statement of Omar M. Ahmad, the Chairman of the Board of the Council on American-Islamic Relations or CAIR, at an Islamic conference held in Freemont, California, in July of 1998.

It's not a matter of choice on the part of the Muslims who want peace; this religion doesn't care if it's peaceful or warlike - just so long as we all submit to Islam. It's what that religion is all about - and it is in their Qura'an and their Hadiths.

This peaceful religion is responsible for the slaughter of untold millions of people in Africa, East Europe, (almost the entire Armenian population), Arabia - and it's been warring this way for 1400 years to the tune of "peace." To a Muslim, one who practices and believes his faith, "peace" means "submission," and only through submission to Islam can peach be attained. It's that simple.

The word "Islam" obviously comes from the root word for "salaam." But whereas "Salaam" means "peace," "Islam" means "submission." Their belief is that you cannot have the first without the second.

[Avary]

It's not that Islam in and by itself is hateful, it's what manipulative people do with it.

However I've rareley seen reports of Buddhist terrorist flying airliners into skyscrappers, suicide-bombing school buses and sawing off people's heads.

[armourer]

Personally I think Islam is one of the worst, intolerant and hateful religons around today, Islam IMO seeks to destroy all that won't submit.

[USA11B]

If one is an infidel, as Islam considers me to be. What rationale is there to have contact with a system that seeks to destroy me? No one inside or outside Islam has provided an answer to that, a lot of Pc and verbal gymnastics. No answer that I could comprehend.

[JohnRN]

This was the statement of Omar M. Ahmad, the Chairman of the Board of the Council on American-Islamic Relations or CAIR, at an Islamic conference held in Freemont, California, in July of 1998.

Try as you mght - you will never get proof of that.

Why? Because it doesn't happen.

CAIR is a WELL known organisation - I doubt people would be quiet if the President of CAIR had made those statements.

This whole thing has been hashed and rehased more than a dozen times. A history of violence exists in all holy books. It is how each person interprets it that is the question...

[Snowden]

Originally Posted by John.

Try as you mght - you will never get proof of that.

Why? Because it doesn't happen.

CAIR is a WELL known organisation - I doubt people would be quiet if the President of CAIR had made those statements.

This whole thing has been hashed and rehased more than a dozen times. A history of violence exists in all holy books. It is how each person interprets it that is the question...

John, you have seen Islam in India - not when it first arrived, but as it was being lived during your very short lifetime. We have peace with Islam here too.

The problem with Islam is not all that easy to spot as a rule. The law of Islam, as made by Mohammad and interpreted by those who followed - especially such as Wahab - is for Islam to rule the world. How it is done is immaterial to those who intend to bring this about. Slaughter of Jews and Christians is commonplace; pagans can choose to bow to it or lose their heads (or at least they could at first; I am not certain of their current status). The god of Islam intends to rule all humankind.

This is why Islam is dangerous. Many in it love one another and people who are not Islamic. It does not change the ideology or the ultimate goal of that ideology or religion, which is to rule the world. It will never happen - I am quite sure of that. But unless it happens or the Lord returns, there will never be peace on this earth because the two strongest religions, Judeo Christianity and Islam, are not going to let it happen.

We in that first group will not give up our freedom to worship God as we know Him in our own faith; they will not give up their god - and the small "g" is because I have run headlong into him and I know he is not God. This was a spiritual experience and I am not the first to encounter it - just one of few who says even if you think I'm just crazy, I know what I know because I experienced it.

I would have entitled this 'Why Is Islam not recognized as a religion of hate?' but the shorter titles is sufficient. And as to why - that's simple. People don't like to study history and realize it can and most likely will be repeated. Islam doesn't hate us for not being Muslims. The god of Islam hates our God and intends to take from Him that which He loves - us. It's a spiritual war, and that's one reason so few will acknowledge it as real. Like our friend, Joker, they consider religion "make believe," which it is not. It may be better for us if it were - or if some religions were, but unfortunately we are fighting a spiritual war with physical weapons. And people refuse to read about it; refuse to study the history of Islam. We want to judge the ideology by the friends and those we love who are within it. That cannot be done with any success.

You cannot learn the history of Christianity - and it's pretty bloody too - by listening to me. You must study the history; find when and how the religious finally figured out what God was saying; figured out the teachings of Jesus. Do that; do the same with any religion you want to understand. Man's mistakes will be there - but ultimately one can learn about the religion.

Without the study, one cannot learn it.