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Old 02-01-2004, 20:52   #1 (permalink)
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Default David Kay: Iraq had no Chemical Weapons of Mass Destruction

Transcript: David Kay at Senate hearing



(CNN) -- Former top U.S. weapons inspector David Kay testified Wednesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee about efforts to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ipt/index.html

My biggest question is, just what did President Bush know before the invasion of Iraq. Allegations seem to have been grossly exaggerated.

I doubt we'll find WMD in Iraq. I thought for sure Iraq possessed CWMD until this report.

It does look like Kay is trying to pass the buck to the CIA for the war in Iraq.

However, I think before committing troops into the theater of war, all Intelligence should be confirmed. Instead of using information from years earlier and Administrations prior to this one.

Do you think we will still find WMD in Iraq?

Do you think David Kay is trying to sugarcoat the bad Intelligence used to go to war?

Let's hear what you think.

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Old 02-01-2004, 21:05   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: David Kay: Iraq had no Chemical Weapons of Mass Destruction

I believe there were and probably still are WMD in Iraq and I believe that David Kay is trying to grand stand for a high paying job. Only time will tell, but I will hardly take the word of a disgruntled former employee over the word of the intelligence community.

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Old 02-01-2004, 21:09   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: David Kay: Iraq had no Chemical Weapons of Mass Destruction

Do you think we will still find WMD in Iraq?
No, if they did have WMD, they had plenty of time to move it out of Iraq and into another country.

Do you think David Kay is trying to sugarcoat the bad Intelligence used to go to war?

This is one mans opinion and that intelligence came from all intelligence agencies around the world and I haven't heard them pop up and confirm that this was bad intelligence. I think it is premature to automatically assume that we did receive bad intelligence based on one mans opinion until we hear from the other agencies one way or another.
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Old 02-01-2004, 21:11   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: David Kay: Iraq had no Chemical Weapons of Mass Destruction

It would be a conspiracy of unhideable (is that a word?) proportions if there were none, and the Administration decided "Screw it, let's go in anyway." You may not think the Prez is all that smart, but he couldn't possibly be that dumb. I do believe that there are some somewhere. A retired CSM friend of mine that was there for the Gulf War said "How freakin' easy does everyone think it IS to search the state of California anyway?"
Let's get a few thousand people, start down on the south border, and search our way northwards. We keep searching until we find....what would we like to search for as an example? I'm telling you, it ain't over. Plus I wonder what the status of the rumors is. The ones about his sending some of the stuff to the neighbors for safekeeping. There are just too many unanswered questions (and unsearched area) to flat out accuse the Administration like so many are ready to do right now.
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Default Re: David Kay: Iraq had no Chemical Weapons of Mass Destruction

a. Uncle Saddam had WMD's and used them on the Kurds and Iranians.

b. Our HUMINT programs have been kept on a very short leash and underfunded for decades.

c. No one debated whether or not Iraq had WMD's till the summer of '02. It was accepted as fact by both sides of the Congressional aisle, and accepted by Europe.

d. A lot of what was considered evidence was the shipping and possession of large quantities of 'dual-use' technology and supplies. IE the 'insecticide plant' south of Baghdad that was overrun early in the war is a classic example. This is a facility that (similar to changing a auto parts production line) can switch from insectecide to poison gas production.

e. If you have followed the news you should of noticed some huge underground production and storage facilities have been discovered. Considering that Stalin and Hitler were heroes of Uncle Saddam he seems to have followed their lead in pushing a lot of stuff underground.

f. What were the truck production facilities for if NOT bio or chem? Seriously, there is not Betty Crocker bake-off being held in the middle east that the Iraqi high-archey would need to secretly develop a receipie for choclate-chip cookies. (I could be wrong here.)

g. We threw away strategic and operational surprise early on. The Iraqis KNEW we were coming... but exactly when and where? The Iraqis had months to disperse and conceal information, technology hardware, and completed weapons, not just within Iraq either.

h. Bear in mind that much of the 'publicity' on the Iraqi weapons in Syria have come from DEBKA. Puruse that site for a while and you will find that they have an 'agenda'. While a highly probable course of action... DEBKA has their own reasons for publishing the information.

just a few idle thoughts...
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