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Old 06-30-2004, 16:18   #1 (permalink)
SGM Eugene Pantano
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Default [MV] CANIBALS

I have been watching ..and trying to stay out of the subject of
cannibalizing Military Vehicles.....
a subject I am very informed on. For years....too many to admit to...I have
been right in the middle of the cannibalization of vehicles for the US
Army..
I guess you all have never heard of a "CANN POINT" ..?? What do you think it
is..?? It is a place, near a Maintenance Shop, that is used for the storage
of un-used - broke down - red-lined and various vehicles that may or may not
be complete. Repair of these vehicles is not economically feasible. When a
Battery, Company, Battalion...or whoever ...If they need a part from one of
the vehicles at a "cann point"... They will send a "Authorized" parts
scrounger there to get whatever part they need...he/or she - must have
written authorization to get into the "point"...except in COMBAT AREAS....
Sometimes, most of a vehicle will go with the scroungers. This has been
going on in the Army since the Last Supper..and will continue forever and a
day... Without cannibalization, combat areas, and line operations could come
to a screeching halt. Ordering parts in Iraq, and receiving them in a timely
manner is out of the question... My old Unit..which I am in constant touch
with....does not order parts. They are removed from various "deadlined"
vehicles. If there is no part available on any of the vehicles at a cann
point...then the dead vehicle winds up there as a "parts bin"....
This is how it is done gents..like it or not. It save thousands of
dollars...not to mention the expedience of getting a vehicle back in
action.......
I have actual photos and films of a Unit in the Korea War...doing just what
I am talking about. Why do you think busted up vehicles - to include
tanks...were hauled back to a certain holding area...? It was for
cannibalization...at the cann point. !! out here..................Gene



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Old 06-30-2004, 16:18   #2 (permalink)
dodgew200@mchsi.com
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Default Re: [MV] CANIBALS

The Navy does the same thing with it's aircraft. Too many times I've come back
from a deployment only to be told to rape, rob and strip full FMC jets so the
parts could go to a squadron that is deploying. THen we have a hanger full of
parts bins.....a few that actually can fly. the fun part is...each aircraft has
to fly within a certain number of days...so the big game of fix one jet so it
can fly ONCE...then rob all the parts back out and put them in yet ANOTHER jet
so it can fly....ONCE...and over and over and over...

It's not so bad now...but cannabalization is and allways will be part of ANY
military mainteneance organization....no matter what anybody says...

Lurker Rob
--
'69 Plymouth Barracuda Fastback
'69 Dart 270 4dr For sale $900 obo
'04 PT Cruiser
2003 GMC Savanah 3500
'67-'69 Barracuda Owners Group
MVPA #17365
Ridgecrest Ca.

[color=blue]
> I have been watching ..and trying to stay out of the subject of
> cannibalizing Military Vehicles.....
> a subject I am very informed on. For years....too many to admit to...I have
> been right in the middle of the cannibalization of vehicles for the US
> Army..
> I guess you all have never heard of a "CANN POINT" ..?? What do you think it
> is..?? It is a place, near a Maintenance Shop, that is used for the storage
> of un-used - broke down - red-lined and various vehicles that may or may not
> be complete. Repair of these vehicles is not economically feasible. When a
> Battery, Company, Battalion...or whoever ...If they need a part from one of
> the vehicles at a "cann point"... They will send a "Authorized" parts
> scrounger there to get whatever part they need...he/or she - must have
> written authorization to get into the "point"...except in COMBAT AREAS....
> Sometimes, most of a vehicle will go with the scroungers. This has been
> going on in the Army since the Last Supper..and will continue forever and a
> day... Without cannibalization, combat areas, and line operations could come
> to a screeching halt. Ordering parts in Iraq, and receiving them in a timely
> manner is out of the question... My old Unit..which I am in constant touch
> with....does not order parts. They are removed from various "deadlined"
> vehicles. If there is no part available on any of the vehicles at a cann
> point...then the dead vehicle winds up there as a "parts bin"....
> This is how it is done gents..like it or not. It save thousands of
> dollars...not to mention the expedience of getting a vehicle back in
> action.......
> I have actual photos and films of a Unit in the Korea War...doing just what
> I am talking about. Why do you think busted up vehicles - to include
> tanks...were hauled back to a certain holding area...? It was for
> cannibalization...at the cann point. !! out here..................Gene
>
>
>
> ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>[/color]

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Old 06-30-2004, 16:20   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: [MV] CANIBALS

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says " Does this taste funny to you?"


----- Original Message -----
From: <dodgew200@mchsi.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] CANIBALS

[color=blue]
> The Navy does the same thing with it's aircraft. Too many times I've come[/color]
back[color=blue]
> from a deployment only to be told to rape, rob and strip full FMC jets so[/color]
the[color=blue]
> parts could go to a squadron that is deploying. THen we have a hanger full[/color]
of[color=blue]
> parts bins.....a few that actually can fly. the fun part is...each[/color]
aircraft has[color=blue]
> to fly within a certain number of days...so the big game of fix one jet so[/color]
it[color=blue]
> can fly ONCE...then rob all the parts back out and put them in yet ANOTHER[/color]
jet[color=blue]
> so it can fly....ONCE...and over and over and over...
>
> It's not so bad now...but cannabalization is and allways will be part of[/color]
ANY[color=blue]
> military mainteneance organization....no matter what anybody says...
>
> Lurker Rob
> --
> '69 Plymouth Barracuda Fastback
> '69 Dart 270 4dr For sale $900 obo
> '04 PT Cruiser
> 2003 GMC Savanah 3500
> '67-'69 Barracuda Owners Group
> MVPA #17365
> Ridgecrest Ca.
>
>[color=green]
> > I have been watching ..and trying to stay out of the subject of
> > cannibalizing Military Vehicles.....
> > a subject I am very informed on. For years....too many to admit to...I[/color][/color]
have[color=blue][color=green]
> > been right in the middle of the cannibalization of vehicles for the US
> > Army..
> > I guess you all have never heard of a "CANN POINT" ..?? What do you[/color][/color]
think it[color=blue][color=green]
> > is..?? It is a place, near a Maintenance Shop, that is used for the[/color][/color]
storage[color=blue][color=green]
> > of un-used - broke down - red-lined and various vehicles that may or may[/color][/color]
not[color=blue][color=green]
> > be complete. Repair of these vehicles is not economically feasible.[/color][/color]
When a[color=blue][color=green]
> > Battery, Company, Battalion...or whoever ...If they need a part from one[/color][/color]
of[color=blue][color=green]
> > the vehicles at a "cann point"... They will send a "Authorized" parts
> > scrounger there to get whatever part they need...he/or she - must have
> > written authorization to get into the "point"...except in COMBAT[/color][/color]
AREAS....[color=blue][color=green]
> > Sometimes, most of a vehicle will go with the scroungers. This has been
> > going on in the Army since the Last Supper..and will continue forever[/color][/color]
and a[color=blue][color=green]
> > day... Without cannibalization, combat areas, and line operations could[/color][/color]
come[color=blue][color=green]
> > to a screeching halt. Ordering parts in Iraq, and receiving them in a[/color][/color]
timely[color=blue][color=green]
> > manner is out of the question... My old Unit..which I am in constant[/color][/color]
touch[color=blue][color=green]
> > with....does not order parts. They are removed from various "deadlined"
> > vehicles. If there is no part available on any of the vehicles at a cann
> > point...then the dead vehicle winds up there as a "parts bin"....
> > This is how it is done gents..like it or not. It save thousands of
> > dollars...not to mention the expedience of getting a vehicle back in
> > action.......
> > I have actual photos and films of a Unit in the Korea War...doing just[/color][/color]
what[color=blue][color=green]
> > I am talking about. Why do you think busted up vehicles - to include
> > tanks...were hauled back to a certain holding area...? It was for
> > cannibalization...at the cann point. !! out here..................Gene
> >
> >
> >
> > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to[/color][/color]
<mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>[color=blue][color=green]
> > To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>[/color]
>
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Old 06-30-2004, 16:21   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: [MV] CANIBALS

Two cannibals catch a missionary and prepare to cook him in a big pot. The
boss cannibal walks by and says "Hey, you can't boil him, he's a Friar!"


----- Original Message -----
From: <dodgew200@mchsi.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] CANIBALS

[color=blue]
> The Navy does the same thing with it's aircraft. Too many times I've come[/color]
back[color=blue]
> from a deployment only to be told to rape, rob and strip full FMC jets so[/color]
the[color=blue]
> parts could go to a squadron that is deploying. THen we have a hanger full[/color]
of[color=blue]
> parts bins.....a few that actually can fly. the fun part is...each[/color]
aircraft has[color=blue]
> to fly within a certain number of days...so the big game of fix one jet so[/color]
it[color=blue]
> can fly ONCE...then rob all the parts back out and put them in yet ANOTHER[/color]
jet[color=blue]
> so it can fly....ONCE...and over and over and over...
>
> It's not so bad now...but cannabalization is and allways will be part of[/color]
ANY[color=blue]
> military mainteneance organization....no matter what anybody says...
>
> Lurker Rob
> --
> '69 Plymouth Barracuda Fastback
> '69 Dart 270 4dr For sale $900 obo
> '04 PT Cruiser
> 2003 GMC Savanah 3500
> '67-'69 Barracuda Owners Group
> MVPA #17365
> Ridgecrest Ca.
>
>[color=green]
> > I have been watching ..and trying to stay out of the subject of
> > cannibalizing Military Vehicles.....
> > a subject I am very informed on. For years....too many to admit to...I[/color][/color]
have[color=blue][color=green]
> > been right in the middle of the cannibalization of vehicles for the US
> > Army..
> > I guess you all have never heard of a "CANN POINT" ..?? What do you[/color][/color]
think it[color=blue][color=green]
> > is..?? It is a place, near a Maintenance Shop, that is used for the[/color][/color]
storage[color=blue][color=green]
> > of un-used - broke down - red-lined and various vehicles that may or may[/color][/color]
not[color=blue][color=green]
> > be complete. Repair of these vehicles is not economically feasible.[/color][/color]
When a[color=blue][color=green]
> > Battery, Company, Battalion...or whoever ...If they need a part from one[/color][/color]
of[color=blue][color=green]
> > the vehicles at a "cann point"... They will send a "Authorized" parts
> > scrounger there to get whatever part they need...he/or she - must have
> > written authorization to get into the "point"...except in COMBAT[/color][/color]
AREAS....[color=blue][color=green]
> > Sometimes, most of a vehicle will go with the scroungers. This has been
> > going on in the Army since the Last Supper..and will continue forever[/color][/color]
and a[color=blue][color=green]
> > day... Without cannibalization, combat areas, and line operations could[/color][/color]
come[color=blue][color=green]
> > to a screeching halt. Ordering parts in Iraq, and receiving them in a[/color][/color]
timely[color=blue][color=green]
> > manner is out of the question... My old Unit..which I am in constant[/color][/color]
touch[color=blue][color=green]
> > with....does not order parts. They are removed from various "deadlined"
> > vehicles. If there is no part available on any of the vehicles at a cann
> > point...then the dead vehicle winds up there as a "parts bin"....
> > This is how it is done gents..like it or not. It save thousands of
> > dollars...not to mention the expedience of getting a vehicle back in
> > action.......
> > I have actual photos and films of a Unit in the Korea War...doing just[/color][/color]
what[color=blue][color=green]
> > I am talking about. Why do you think busted up vehicles - to include
> > tanks...were hauled back to a certain holding area...? It was for
> > cannibalization...at the cann point. !! out here..................Gene
> >
> >
> >
> > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to[/color][/color]
<mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>[color=blue][color=green]
> > To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>[/color]
>
> ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
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> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
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Old 06-30-2004, 16:22   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: [MV] CANIBALS

A cannibal family sits down to Thanksgiving dinner. A young cannibal
whispers to his mom, "I don't like Aunt Isabel". The mother cannibal says
"Then just eat your vegetables."


----- Original Message -----
From: <dodgew200@mchsi.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] CANIBALS

[color=blue]
> The Navy does the same thing with it's aircraft. Too many times I've come[/color]
back[color=blue]
> from a deployment only to be told to rape, rob and strip full FMC jets so[/color]
the[color=blue]
> parts could go to a squadron that is deploying. THen we have a hanger full[/color]
of[color=blue]
> parts bins.....a few that actually can fly. the fun part is...each[/color]
aircraft has[color=blue]
> to fly within a certain number of days...so the big game of fix one jet so[/color]
it[color=blue]
> can fly ONCE...then rob all the parts back out and put them in yet ANOTHER[/color]
jet[color=blue]
> so it can fly....ONCE...and over and over and over...
>
> It's not so bad now...but cannabalization is and allways will be part of[/color]
ANY[color=blue]
> military mainteneance organization....no matter what anybody says...
>
> Lurker Rob
> --
> '69 Plymouth Barracuda Fastback
> '69 Dart 270 4dr For sale $900 obo
> '04 PT Cruiser
> 2003 GMC Savanah 3500
> '67-'69 Barracuda Owners Group
> MVPA #17365
> Ridgecrest Ca.
>
>[color=green]
> > I have been watching ..and trying to stay out of the subject of
> > cannibalizing Military Vehicles.....
> > a subject I am very informed on. For years....too many to admit to...I[/color][/color]
have[color=blue][color=green]
> > been right in the middle of the cannibalization of vehicles for the US
> > Army..
> > I guess you all have never heard of a "CANN POINT" ..?? What do you[/color][/color]
think it[color=blue][color=green]
> > is..?? It is a place, near a Maintenance Shop, that is used for the[/color][/color]
storage[color=blue][color=green]
> > of un-used - broke down - red-lined and various vehicles that may or may[/color][/color]
not[color=blue][color=green]
> > be complete. Repair of these vehicles is not economically feasible.[/color][/color]
When a[color=blue][color=green]
> > Battery, Company, Battalion...or whoever ...If they need a part from one[/color][/color]
of[color=blue][color=green]
> > the vehicles at a "cann point"... They will send a "Authorized" parts
> > scrounger there to get whatever part they need...he/or she - must have
> > written authorization to get into the "point"...except in COMBAT[/color][/color]
AREAS....[color=blue][color=green]
> > Sometimes, most of a vehicle will go with the scroungers. This has been
> > going on in the Army since the Last Supper..and will continue forever[/color][/color]
and a[color=blue][color=green]
> > day... Without cannibalization, combat areas, and line operations could[/color][/color]
come[color=blue][color=green]
> > to a screeching halt. Ordering parts in Iraq, and receiving them in a[/color][/color]
timely[color=blue][color=green]
> > manner is out of the question... My old Unit..which I am in constant[/color][/color]
touch[color=blue][color=green]
> > with....does not order parts. They are removed from various "deadlined"
> > vehicles. If there is no part available on any of the vehicles at a cann
> > point...then the dead vehicle winds up there as a "parts bin"....
> > This is how it is done gents..like it or not. It save thousands of
> > dollars...not to mention the expedience of getting a vehicle back in
> > action.......
> > I have actual photos and films of a Unit in the Korea War...doing just[/color][/color]
what[color=blue][color=green]
> > I am talking about. Why do you think busted up vehicles - to include
> > tanks...were hauled back to a certain holding area...? It was for
> > cannibalization...at the cann point. !! out here..................Gene
> >
> >
> >
> > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to[/color][/color]
<mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>[color=blue][color=green]
> > To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>[/color]
>
> ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>[/color]


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Old 06-30-2004, 16:23   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: [MV] CANIBALS

Two cannibals sit down to the table to eat their latest catch. "How are we
going to eat this guy equally?" wonders one cannibal. "I know", says the
other. "You start at the feet, and I'll start at the head, and we'll met in
the middle." "OK" he says, "That sounds fair"

A few minutes later, the first cannibal says "How are you doing, down
there?" The other cannibal says "Great!!! I'm havin' a ball!"

The first cannibal says "You're eating too fast!"


----- Original Message -----
From: <dodgew200@mchsi.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] CANIBALS

[color=blue]
> The Navy does the same thing with it's aircraft. Too many times I've come[/color]
back[color=blue]
> from a deployment only to be told to rape, rob and strip full FMC jets so[/color]
the[color=blue]
> parts could go to a squadron that is deploying. THen we have a hanger full[/color]
of[color=blue]
> parts bins.....a few that actually can fly. the fun part is...each[/color]
aircraft has[color=blue]
> to fly within a certain number of days...so the big game of fix one jet so[/color]
it[color=blue]
> can fly ONCE...then rob all the parts back out and put them in yet ANOTHER[/color]
jet[color=blue]
> so it can fly....ONCE...and over and over and over...
>
> It's not so bad now...but cannabalization is and allways will be part of[/color]
ANY[color=blue]
> military mainteneance organization....no matter what anybody says...
>
> Lurker Rob
> --
> '69 Plymouth Barracuda Fastback
> '69 Dart 270 4dr For sale $900 obo
> '04 PT Cruiser
> 2003 GMC Savanah 3500
> '67-'69 Barracuda Owners Group
> MVPA #17365
> Ridgecrest Ca.
>
>[color=green]
> > I have been watching ..and trying to stay out of the subject of
> > cannibalizing Military Vehicles.....
> > a subject I am very informed on. For years....too many to admit to...I[/color][/color]
have[color=blue][color=green]
> > been right in the middle of the cannibalization of vehicles for the US
> > Army..
> > I guess you all have never heard of a "CANN POINT" ..?? What do you[/color][/color]
think it[color=blue][color=green]
> > is..?? It is a place, near a Maintenance Shop, that is used for the[/color][/color]
storage[color=blue][color=green]
> > of un-used - broke down - red-lined and various vehicles that may or may[/color][/color]
not[color=blue][color=green]
> > be complete. Repair of these vehicles is not economically feasible.[/color][/color]
When a[color=blue][color=green]
> > Battery, Company, Battalion...or whoever ...If they need a part from one[/color][/color]
of[color=blue][color=green]
> > the vehicles at a "cann point"... They will send a "Authorized" parts
> > scrounger there to get whatever part they need...he/or she - must have
> > written authorization to get into the "point"...except in COMBAT[/color][/color]
AREAS....[color=blue][color=green]
> > Sometimes, most of a vehicle will go with the scroungers. This has been
> > going on in the Army since the Last Supper..and will continue forever[/color][/color]
and a[color=blue][color=green]
> > day... Without cannibalization, combat areas, and line operations could[/color][/color]
come[color=blue][color=green]
> > to a screeching halt. Ordering parts in Iraq, and receiving them in a[/color][/color]
timely[color=blue][color=green]
> > manner is out of the question... My old Unit..which I am in constant[/color][/color]
touch[color=blue][color=green]
> > with....does not order parts. They are removed from various "deadlined"
> > vehicles. If there is no part available on any of the vehicles at a cann
> > point...then the dead vehicle winds up there as a "parts bin"....
> > This is how it is done gents..like it or not. It save thousands of
> > dollars...not to mention the expedience of getting a vehicle back in
> > action.......
> > I have actual photos and films of a Unit in the Korea War...doing just[/color][/color]
what[color=blue][color=green]
> > I am talking about. Why do you think busted up vehicles - to include
> > tanks...were hauled back to a certain holding area...? It was for
> > cannibalization...at the cann point. !! out here..................Gene
> >
> >
> >
> > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to[/color][/color]
<mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>[color=blue][color=green]
> > To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>[/color]
>
> ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
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Old 06-30-2004, 16:25   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: [MV] CANIBALS

What does a canibal do after he dumps his girlfriend?

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Wipes his @$$

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