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| Civilians | I working on getting a petition to try and make a change to the federal law that states that no one under the age of 21 is allowed to carry/ buy a pistol. I believe that this law is wrong, I served in Iraq, I was a weapons instructor in the Army, I trained Officers on Pistols, I was wounded defending the USA. I now work as a private security guard, but am unable to carry or instruct in the civilian world due to my age. I believe that the Goverment should make certain exceptions to this law. If you agree with me then please send me an email, if you don't please share with me why. Here's my Petition: Petition for change to Federal Law regarding Possession of a Pistol by someone under age 21. In the General Information, Items of Interest, of the 2000 Publication of Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide(ATF P 5300.4(01-00), page 115 Section 4. Federal Age Restrictions, it states: “Federal law prohibits Federal firearms licensees from selling or delivering any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than 18 years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than 21 years of age. (18 U.S.C. 922(b)(1), 27 CFR 178.99(b)(1).) [NOTE: Ammunition interchangeable between rifles and handguns (such as .22 caliber rimfire) may be sold to an individual 18 years of age, but less than 21, if the licensee is satisfied that the ammunition is being acquired for use in a rifle.] Additionally, it is unlawful for a person to transfer a handgun to a juvenile (a person less than 18 years of age) and it is unlawful for a juvenile to possess a handgun. Exceptions are provided for the transfer of a handgun to and possession by a juvenile for purposes of employment, ranching, farming, target practice or hunting as provided for in 18 U.S.C. 922(x). Pursuant to regulations at 27 CFR 178.103, ATF distributes posters to licensed importers, manufacturers, and dealers that caution against the transfer of handguns to juveniles, as well as the possession of handguns by juveniles, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 922(x). The regulations require licensees to display the posters on their premises. Some licensees erroneously interpreted the poster to mean that they may now lawfully transfer handguns to any person over 17 years of age. Enactment of section 922(x) making it unlawful to sell handguns to juveniles (persons under 18 years of age) and for juvenile to possess handguns did not alter section 922(b)(1) of the GCA that continues to prohibit licensees from transferring handguns to persons under 21 years of age.” This Petition is to make the same laws apply to ages 18-21, with certain Qualifications/Background, that applies to those 21 years of age or older. If someone is old enough to fight and maybe even die for this country then they’re old enough to have the same privileges as everyone else. **Someone between the ages of 18-21 would have to conform to the same Rules/Regulations as someone 21 or older.** An Example that would entitle some 18-21 years old to legally own/carry a pistol or be able to be employed in such a role. • Military Background (other than Dishonorable Discharge) • Mentally Sound By signing this Petition you agree that the Federal/State Law should be changed to allow certain cases to be considered. Chris Somers US Army (Ret.) Combat Wounded Operation Iraqi Freedom Vet 300+ Missions 2004-2005 American Legion #420 MVPA Member #28977 Proud Owner-1953 M38A1 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around [url]http://mail.yahoo.com[/url] ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] |
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| Civilians | I really dont think this is anything remotely to do with military vehicles and isnt really relevant for this forum. NIGEL HAY Publisher [url]www.milweb.net[/url] Used by over 12,500 military collectors and dealers each week! -----Original Message----- From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org]On Behalf Of Chris Somers Sent: 31 January 2006 07:09 To: Military Vehicles Mailing List Subject: [MV] would any support this petition? I working on getting a petition to try and make a change to the federal law that states that no one under the age of 21 is allowed to carry/ buy a pistol. I believe that this law is wrong, I served in Iraq, I was a weapons instructor in the Army, I trained Officers on Pistols, I was wounded defending the USA. I now work as a private security guard, but am unable to carry or instruct in the civilian world due to my age. I believe that the Goverment should make certain exceptions to this law. If you agree with me then please send me an email, if you don't please share with me why. Here's my Petition: Petition for change to Federal Law regarding Possession of a Pistol by someone under age 21. In the General Information, Items of Interest, of the 2000 Publication of Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide(ATF P 5300.4(01-00), page 115 Section 4. Federal Age Restrictions, it states: “Federal law prohibits Federal firearms licensees from selling or delivering any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than 18 years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than 21 years of age. (18 U.S.C. 922(b)(1), 27 CFR 178.99(b)(1).) [NOTE: Ammunition interchangeable between rifles and handguns (such as .22 caliber rimfire) may be sold to an individual 18 years of age, but less than 21, if the licensee is satisfied that the ammunition is being acquired for use in a rifle.] Additionally, it is unlawful for a person to transfer a handgun to a juvenile (a person less than 18 years of age) and it is unlawful for a juvenile to possess a handgun. Exceptions are provided for the transfer of a handgun to and possession by a juvenile for purposes of employment, ranching, farming, target practice or hunting as provided for in 18 U.S.C. 922(x). Pursuant to regulations at 27 CFR 178.103, ATF distributes posters to licensed importers, manufacturers, and dealers that caution against the transfer of handguns to juveniles, as well as the possession of handguns by juveniles, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 922(x). The regulations require licensees to display the posters on their premises. Some licensees erroneously interpreted the poster to mean that they may now lawfully transfer handguns to any person over 17 years of age. Enactment of section 922(x) making it unlawful to sell handguns to juveniles (persons under 18 years of age) and for juvenile to possess handguns did not alter section 922(b)(1) of the GCA that continues to prohibit licensees from transferring handguns to persons under 21 years of age.” This Petition is to make the same laws apply to ages 18-21, with certain Qualifications/Background, that applies to those 21 years of age or older. If someone is old enough to fight and maybe even die for this country then they’re old enough to have the same privileges as everyone else. **Someone between the ages of 18-21 would have to conform to the same Rules/Regulations as someone 21 or older.** An Example that would entitle some 18-21 years old to legally own/carry a pistol or be able to be employed in such a role. • Military Background (other than Dishonorable Discharge) • Mentally Sound By signing this Petition you agree that the Federal/State Law should be changed to allow certain cases to be considered. Chris Somers US Army (Ret.) Combat Wounded Operation Iraqi Freedom Vet 300+ Missions 2004-2005 American Legion #420 MVPA Member #28977 Proud Owner-1953 M38A1 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around [url]http://mail.yahoo.com[/url] ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] |
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| Civilians | I thank you for your service to me and our country. Rather than lower the age for pistol ownership, I would rather see them raise the minimum enlistment age to 55. Then we would not need to read about children being sent to war, and sent back wounded or dead. Arthur P. Bloom (Credentials): Sent there, got wounded, got back, carry a pistol. ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] |
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| Civilians | I agree AP, same credentials, but I was REALLY dumb, I went back for another wound! I also carry, everywhere I go, wouldn't be without! Thanks for your service! Glad you made it back!! Best Regards, Ed "Sirs, you have no reason to be ashamed of your Confederate dead; see to it they have no reason to be ashamed of you" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Bloom" <m35prod (AT) optonline (DOT) net> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:07 Subject: Re: [MV] would any support this petition? [color=blue] > I thank you for your service to me and our country. > > Rather than lower the age for pistol ownership, I would rather see them > raise the minimum enlistment age to 55. > > Then we would not need to read about children being sent to war, and sent > back wounded or dead. > > Arthur P. Bloom > (Credentials): Sent there, got wounded, got back, carry a pistol.[/color] ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] |
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| Civilians | Might be a good idea, not a much worse enemy than a ~really~ pissed off "old codger". Dave J (60+ and also routinly carry) ================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Bloom" <m35prod (AT) optonline (DOT) net> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [MV] would any support this petition? [color=blue] > I thank you for your service to me and our country. > > Rather than lower the age for pistol ownership, I would rather see them > raise the minimum enlistment age to 55. > > Then we would not need to read about children being sent to war, and sent > back wounded or dead. > > Arthur P. Bloom > (Credentials): Sent there, got wounded, got back, carry a pistol. > > > > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> > To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] >[/color] ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] |
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| Civilians | V SCHWARTZ wrote: [color=blue] > Ya might have to relocate to someplace like Montana or Idaho. Less > people less laws . >[/color] Just moved from Idaho to NC a year ago for work! My parents and some siblings live up there still. Idaho is beautiful. But the main cities are getting left-coastish. NC hasn't been bad. The taxes are ridiculous though. Marty ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] |
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| Civilians | Definelty think this topic should be responded to OFF list. Not saying one way or the ohter about its tiopic, but the box has been opened. If you wanna respond about it, do it privatley. Steve ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <mil-veh-off (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org> To reach a human, contact <ackyle (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Visit the searchable archives at [url]http://www.mil-veh.org/archives/[/url] |
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