[MV] Fwd: [MV] Anyone deal with an ebay seller named"us-military-man" ?

Hi Dave,
[color=blue]
> Although this might be wrong, is there anything in Ebayland that says
> that this is any type of violation. This happens quite a bit on Ebay.[/color]

Yup, it is against eBay rules. First, it is covered under there
general policy of not hosting any materials with copyright violations.
If you took the picture and posted it, you have the copyright. Anybody
else using it is therefore in violation of this overarching policy.
However, eBay specifically prohibits lifting pictures and/or
descriptions from other eBayers. In the complaints section there is a
specific link for notifying eBay of such violations. I have found that
these sorts of violations are responded to fairly quickly by eBay.
Where you get into choppy waters is when things are less clear, like
shills and unethical conduct. These things can be more difficult to
prove so eBay appears to follow a policy of "if it ain't obvious to us,
we ain't doing nuttin".

Of course many of us have experienced this sort of response as well as
auctions (either our own or ones we are bidding on) being taken down
for either arbitrary or incorrectly applied legal issues. For example,
I had a German police uniform yanked two weeks ago because of the rank
on it. Yet on German eBay if you don't see a hundred of these for sale
at one time you aren't actually on German eBay! Heck, I just saw one
guy sell a BOX of ranks (estimated to be over 300 pairs), so if someone
wants to impersonate a German police officer, I don't think they'd by
my uniform from the US when they can get boxes of the stuff locally.
In fact, they could just get one from a German police officer, which is
where mine came from. Sadly, like so many eBayers on this list, my
logic fell on deaf ears.

Still, for all its negatives I love it. I sell tons of stuff without
problems and buy just about as much (OK, significantly more <g>). Got
some good money for stuff I otherwise would have put in the dumpster
too. Just balancing out the bad comments with the positive :-)

Steve


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I had asked him a ton of questions and he sent me a question asking if I had
fun "F-ing" with him yet.
I told him I had a great time.
I also explained how it was on the cheap side of ethical the use someone
elses legwork to get the sale.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Grammont" <islander (AT) midmaine (DOT) com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:34 AM
Subject: [MV] Fwd: [MV] Anyone deal with an ebay seller named
"us-military-man" ?

[color=blue]
>
> Hi Dave,
>[color=green]
>> Although this might be wrong, is there anything in Ebayland that says
>> that this is any type of violation. This happens quite a bit on Ebay.[/color]
>
> Yup, it is against eBay rules. First, it is covered under there general
> policy of not hosting any materials with copyright violations. If you
> took the picture and posted it, you have the copyright. Anybody else
> using it is therefore in violation of this overarching policy. However,
> eBay specifically prohibits lifting pictures and/or descriptions from
> other eBayers. In the complaints section there is a specific link for
> notifying eBay of such violations. I have found that these sorts of
> violations are responded to fairly quickly by eBay. Where you get into
> choppy waters is when things are less clear, like shills and unethical
> conduct. These things can be more difficult to prove so eBay appears to
> follow a policy of "if it ain't obvious to us, we ain't doing nuttin".
>
> Of course many of us have experienced this sort of response as well as
> auctions (either our own or ones we are bidding on) being taken down for
> either arbitrary or incorrectly applied legal issues. For example, I had
> a German police uniform yanked two weeks ago because of the rank on it.
> Yet on German eBay if you don't see a hundred of these for sale at one
> time you aren't actually on German eBay! Heck, I just saw one guy sell a
> BOX of ranks (estimated to be over 300 pairs), so if someone wants to
> impersonate a German police officer, I don't think they'd by my uniform
> from the US when they can get boxes of the stuff locally. In fact, they
> could just get one from a German police officer, which is where mine came
> from. Sadly, like so many eBayers on this list, my logic fell on deaf
> ears.
>
> Still, for all its negatives I love it. I sell tons of stuff without
> problems and buy just about as much (OK, significantly more <g>). Got
> some good money for stuff I otherwise would have put in the dumpster too.
> Just balancing out the bad comments with the positive :-)
>
> Steve
>
>
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> [/color]


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He sent the same thing to my computer and my wife saw it and forwarded it to
ebay.

Sonny


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Boos" <acfarer (AT) cox (DOT) net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Fwd: [MV] Anyone deal with an ebay seller named
"us-military-man" ?

[color=blue]
>I had asked him a ton of questions and he sent me a question asking if I
>had fun "F-ing" with him yet.
> I told him I had a great time.
> I also explained how it was on the cheap side of ethical the use someone
> elses legwork to get the sale.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Grammont" <islander (AT) midmaine (DOT) com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:34 AM
> Subject: [MV] Fwd: [MV] Anyone deal with an ebay seller named
> "us-military-man" ?
>
>[color=green]
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Although this might be wrong, is there anything in Ebayland that says
>>> that this is any type of violation. This happens quite a bit on Ebay.[/color]
>>
>> Yup, it is against eBay rules. First, it is covered under there general
>> policy of not hosting any materials with copyright violations. If you
>> took the picture and posted it, you have the copyright. Anybody else
>> using it is therefore in violation of this overarching policy. However,
>> eBay specifically prohibits lifting pictures and/or descriptions from
>> other eBayers. In the complaints section there is a specific link for
>> notifying eBay of such violations. I have found that these sorts of
>> violations are responded to fairly quickly by eBay. Where you get into
>> choppy waters is when things are less clear, like shills and unethical
>> conduct. These things can be more difficult to prove so eBay appears to
>> follow a policy of "if it ain't obvious to us, we ain't doing nuttin".
>>
>> Of course many of us have experienced this sort of response as well as
>> auctions (either our own or ones we are bidding on) being taken down for
>> either arbitrary or incorrectly applied legal issues. For example, I had
>> a German police uniform yanked two weeks ago because of the rank on it.
>> Yet on German eBay if you don't see a hundred of these for sale at one
>> time you aren't actually on German eBay! Heck, I just saw one guy sell a
>> BOX of ranks (estimated to be over 300 pairs), so if someone wants to
>> impersonate a German police officer, I don't think they'd by my uniform
>> from the US when they can get boxes of the stuff locally. In fact, they
>> could just get one from a German police officer, which is where mine came
>> from. Sadly, like so many eBayers on this list, my logic fell on deaf
>> ears.
>>
>> Still, for all its negatives I love it. I sell tons of stuff without
>> problems and buy just about as much (OK, significantly more <g>). Got
>> some good money for stuff I otherwise would have put in the dumpster too.
>> Just balancing out the bad comments with the positive :-)
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
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>>[/color]
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