[MV] easy 5-ton question

This is SO basic I don't even think I would find it on my documentation
CD...anyway, I've got a dead inner dually that I tried to swap with my
spare yesterday, while away from home & preferred tools. Lug nuts came
off OK, and I wrestled the outer wheel off with some effort, but the
inner is locked on with...what? Rust? Paint? Krazy glue? Unseen
fasteners? If I'd had a second jack, I'd have used it to try to force
the thing off. Levers, whacking with a hammer-like field-improvised
tool, and copious swearing all failed to remove it. Am I missing anything?

Maybe it's good I didn't have my sledge with me.

--Dave

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Hmmmmmm...those square things left after you remove the outer tire ...they
are the stud/nuts that hold on the inner tire.. They ALSO have to be
removed.!!
Gene
[color=blue]
> This is SO basic I don't even think I would find it on my documentation
> CD...anyway, I've got a dead inner dually that I tried to swap with my
> spare yesterday, while away from home & preferred tools. Lug nuts came
> off OK, and I wrestled the outer wheel off with some effort, but the
> inner is locked on with...what? Rust? Paint? Krazy glue? Unseen
> fasteners? If I'd had a second jack, I'd have used it to try to force
> the thing off. Levers, whacking with a hammer-like field-improvised
> tool, and copious swearing all failed to remove it. Am I missing
> anything?
>
> Maybe it's good I didn't have my sledge with me.
>
> --Dave
> [/color]

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uhhh...lug wrench? not sure I've even got one. Is there a well-hidden
location where one might find this shining technical marvel? The
behind-the-cab toolbox (M51 dump) is long gone.

But even on close inspection, I couldn't see how the studs might hold
the "inners" in place. The stud threads end just outside the
newly-exposed part of the inner rim dish, & there is no change in stud
diameter visible, so it's hard to imagine how the studs would work to
keep the inners in place. But I'll take three...make that four now...
people's word for it & try to come up with a facsimile for a
square-drive lug wrench, and see what loosens.

Maybe this IS worth a look through the 800 files on my CD...

Thanks for the replies.

--Dave



Hutterer, John (MPAU) wrote:
[color=blue]
>Dave,
>
>This may sound dumb, but...you are aware that the inner wheels are held
>on with their own lug nuts? That's what the square drive socket is for
>on the other end of the lug wrench. Left hand thread on left side, if I
>remember correctly.
>
>John
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Behalf Of Dave Sofio
>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:49 PM
>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>Subject: [MV] easy 5-ton question
>
>This is SO basic I don't even think I would find it on my documentation
>CD...anyway, I've got a dead inner dually that I tried to swap with my
>spare yesterday, while away from home & preferred tools. Lug nuts came
>off OK, and I wrestled the outer wheel off with some effort, but the
>inner is locked on with...what? Rust? Paint? Krazy glue? Unseen
>fasteners? If I'd had a second jack, I'd have used it to try to force
>the thing off. Levers, whacking with a hammer-like field-improvised
>tool, and copious swearing all failed to remove it. Am I missing
>anything?
>
>Maybe it's good I didn't have my sledge with me.
>
>--Dave
>
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What you need Dave, is a "Budd lug wrench" One end fits the lug nuts
you already removed, and the other end has a square drive, just the
ticket for removing that pesky inner nut. It also has a bar that
slides into it so you can get some torque on it. This mechanical
marvel can usually be purchased at any large truck parts shop, and
maybe even at a good truck stop.

-Sean



On 12/12/05, Dave Sofio <dave.nfesc (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:[color=blue]
> uhhh...lug wrench? not sure I've even got one. Is there a well-hidden
> location where one might find this shining technical marvel? The
> behind-the-cab toolbox (M51 dump) is long gone.
>
> But even on close inspection, I couldn't see how the studs might hold
> the "inners" in place. The stud threads end just outside the
> newly-exposed part of the inner rim dish, & there is no change in stud
> diameter visible, so it's hard to imagine how the studs would work to
> keep the inners in place. But I'll take three...make that four now...
> people's word for it & try to come up with a facsimile for a
> square-drive lug wrench, and see what loosens.
>
> Maybe this IS worth a look through the 800 files on my CD...
>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> --Dave
>
>
>
> Hutterer, John (MPAU) wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Dave,
> >
> >This may sound dumb, but...you are aware that the inner wheels are held
> >on with their own lug nuts? That's what the square drive socket is for
> >on the other end of the lug wrench. Left hand thread on left side, if I
> >remember correctly.
> >
> >John
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org] On
> >Behalf Of Dave Sofio
> >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:49 PM
> >To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> >Subject: [MV] easy 5-ton question
> >
> >This is SO basic I don't even think I would find it on my documentation
> >CD...anyway, I've got a dead inner dually that I tried to swap with my
> >spare yesterday, while away from home & preferred tools. Lug nuts came
> >off OK, and I wrestled the outer wheel off with some effort, but the
> >inner is locked on with...what? Rust? Paint? Krazy glue? Unseen
> >fasteners? If I'd had a second jack, I'd have used it to try to force
> >the thing off. Levers, whacking with a hammer-like field-improvised
> >tool, and copious swearing all failed to remove it. Am I missing
> >anything?
> >
> >Maybe it's good I didn't have my sledge with me.
> >
> >--Dave
> >
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--
Sean Nichols
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--------------------
'42 IHC FFN-3 Crash Truck
'71 AM General M151A2

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You do most certainly need the 13/16 budd square socket. Once you remove
one you will clearly understand how the thing works. Until then, steer clear
with sledges and the such, you will lose that battle.
Kenny


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Dave , try turning your standard lug wrench arround that square hole in the
end is the one for the inner lug nuts. sorry to say, they do drive you nuts
whenthey get frosen on. then you need a heat wrench.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Sofio" <dave.nfesc (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] easy 5-ton question

[color=blue]
> uhhh...lug wrench? not sure I've even got one. Is there a well-hidden
> location where one might find this shining technical marvel? The
> behind-the-cab toolbox (M51 dump) is long gone.
>
> But even on close inspection, I couldn't see how the studs might hold the
> "inners" in place. The stud threads end just outside the newly-exposed
> part of the inner rim dish, & there is no change in stud diameter visible,
> so it's hard to imagine how the studs would work to keep the inners in
> place. But I'll take three...make that four now... people's word for it &
> try to come up with a facsimile for a square-drive lug wrench, and see
> what loosens.
> Maybe this IS worth a look through the 800 files on my CD...
>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> --Dave
>
>
>
> Hutterer, John (MPAU) wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Dave,
>>
>>This may sound dumb, but...you are aware that the inner wheels are held
>>on with their own lug nuts? That's what the square drive socket is for
>>on the other end of the lug wrench. Left hand thread on left side, if I
>>remember correctly.
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh (AT) mil-veh (DOT) org] On
>>Behalf Of Dave Sofio
>>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:49 PM
>>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>>Subject: [MV] easy 5-ton question
>>
>>This is SO basic I don't even think I would find it on my documentation
>>CD...anyway, I've got a dead inner dually that I tried to swap with my
>>spare yesterday, while away from home & preferred tools. Lug nuts came
>>off OK, and I wrestled the outer wheel off with some effort, but the
>>inner is locked on with...what? Rust? Paint? Krazy glue? Unseen
>>fasteners? If I'd had a second jack, I'd have used it to try to force
>>the thing off. Levers, whacking with a hammer-like field-improvised
>>tool, and copious swearing all failed to remove it. Am I missing
>>anything?
>>
>>Maybe it's good I didn't have my sledge with me.
>>
>>--Dave
>>
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>>company accepts no liability for any damage caused, directly or
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>>No: 362847 Registered Office: 765 Finchley Road London NW11 8DS, UK
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>
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