[MV] axle change? front to back?

07-20-2004, 10:04

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<P><BR><BR>Ok I know there has been much talk about disconnect and stuff to the rear axle's. I can't do this but can you just take an air-shift front axle and replace the front rear with it? I am not sure of the distance right to left if it end up wider or not but not sure if it will matter if you change to singles also. I would think you can weld or bolt the steering linkage in a way so it does not move? And the just tie in the air lint to the front or another valve to control it. I do not know if this will change the carry capacity? Front cap. vs rear axle? Is it the axle or springs or something else or both? This is just an idea that someone may of already thought of as a less expensive way if you have an extra axle or two laying around. Yes I guess you could do it to both? Then you can control which if any axle is driven. The only problem I have thought of if this is done to all axles would be parking brake.... or lack of one. If I am right no air means axle is disconnected right? so if it sits and looses air the parking brake on the drive shaft would not hold? or does it stay engaged  till switched off? Not sure if its spring loaded to keep engaged or not, but that would only be if you do both anyway. Remember this was just an idea... I am running for cover now.. </P></DIV></DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr> <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2740??PS=47575">MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download!</a> </html>

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07-20-2004, 11:00

At 12:13 PM +0000 7/20/04, Dennis Racz wrote:[color=blue]
>Ok I know there has been much talk about=20
>disconnect and stuff to the rear axle's. I can't=20
>do this but can you just take an air-shift front=20
>axle and replace the front rear with it? I am=20
>not sure of the distance right to left if it end=20
>up wider or not but not sure if it will matter=20
>if you change to singles also. I would think you=20
>can weld or bolt the steering linkage in a way=20
>so it does not move? And the just tie in the air=20
>lint to the front or another valve[/color]

Heck, if you go to that much trouble, move the=20
center axle forwards to nearer center of the=20
chassis and build a steering arm setup for the=20
rear axle! 4 wheel Steer Deuce anyone?

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07-20-2004, 16:04

The air shift front axle is just an axle - the air shift axle part is
somewhat of a misnomer, in that the shifting is accomplished at the transfer
case. The axles themselves (meaning housings) are interchangeable.

It sounds like you're combining manual air/electric/cable lockers and air
shift in one idea...

So, no this wouldn't do anything. Unless someone wants to build a customized
triple output transfer case, with air shifts for two or three axles.

It would have to be someone with much more time and money than I have.

Greg

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From: "Dennis Racz" <docdrrd@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 5:13 AM
Subject: [MV] axle change? front to back?

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axle's. I can't do this but can you just take an air-shift front axle and
replace the front rear with it? I am not sure of the distance right to left
if it end up wider or not but not sure if it will matter if you change to
singles also. I would think you can weld or bolt the steering linkage in a
way so it does not move? And the just tie in the air lint to the front or
another valve to control it. I do not know if this will change the carry
capacity? Front cap. vs rear axle? Is it the axle or springs or something
else or both? This is just an idea that someone may of already thought of as
a less expensive way if you have an extra axle or two laying around. Yes I
guess you could do it to both? Then you can control which if any axle is
driven. The only problem I have thought of if this is done to all axles
would be parking brake.... or lack of one. If I am right no air means axle
is disconnected right? so if it sits and looses air the parking brake on the
drive shaft would not hold? or does it stay engaged till switched off? Not
sure if its spring loaded to keep engaged or not, but that would only be if
you do both anyway. Remember this was just an idea... I am running for cover
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07-20-2004, 10:04	#1 (permalink)
Dennis Racz Civilians	[MV] axle change? front to back? <html><div style='background-color:'><P><BR><BR></P> <DIV> <P><BR><BR></P> <DIV> <DIV class=RTE> <P><BR><BR>Ok I know there has been much talk about disconnect and stuff to the rear axle's. I can't do this but can you just take an air-shift front axle and replace the front rear with it? I am not sure of the distance right to left if it end up wider or not but not sure if it will matter if you change to singles also. I would think you can weld or bolt the steering linkage in a way so it does not move? And the just tie in the air lint to the front or another valve to control it. I do not know if this will change the carry capacity? Front cap. vs rear axle? Is it the axle or springs or something else or both? This is just an idea that someone may of already thought of as a less expensive way if you have an extra axle or two laying around. Yes I guess you could do it to both? Then you can control which if any axle is driven. The only problem I have thought of if this is done to all axles would be parking brake.... or lack of one. If I am right no air means axle is disconnected right? so if it sits and looses air the parking brake on the drive shaft would not hold? or does it stay engaged  till switched off? Not sure if its spring loaded to keep engaged or not, but that would only be if you do both anyway. Remember this was just an idea... I am running for cover now.. </P></DIV></DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr> <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2740??PS=47575">MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download!</a> </html> ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>

07-20-2004, 11:00	#2 (permalink)
Ryan Gill Civilians	Re: [MV] axle change? front to back? At 12:13 PM +0000 7/20/04, Dennis Racz wrote:[color=blue] >Ok I know there has been much talk about=20 >disconnect and stuff to the rear axle's. I can't=20 >do this but can you just take an air-shift front=20 >axle and replace the front rear with it? I am=20 >not sure of the distance right to left if it end=20 >up wider or not but not sure if it will matter=20 >if you change to singles also. I would think you=20 >can weld or bolt the steering linkage in a way=20 >so it does not move? And the just tie in the air=20 >lint to the front or another valve[/color] Heck, if you go to that much trouble, move the=20 center axle forwards to nearer center of the=20 chassis and build a steering arm setup for the=20 rear axle! 4 wheel Steer Deuce anyone? -- -- Ryan Gill [email]rmgill@SPAMmindspring.com[/email] ---------------------------------------------------------- \| \| \| -=3D=3D---- \| O--=3D- \| \| /_8[*]=B0_\ \|_/\|o\|_\_\| \| _________ \| /_[=3D=3D=3D]_\ / 00DA61 \ \|/---------\\| __/ \--- _w/\|=3D_[__]_=3D \w_ // [_] o[]\\ _oO_\ /_O\|_ \|: O(4) =3D=3D O :\| _Oo\=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D/_O_ \|____\ /____\| \|---\________/---\| [__O_______W__] \|x\|\|_\ /_\|\|x\| \|s\|\ /\|s\| \|s\|/BSV 575\\|s\| \|x\|-\\| \|/-\|x\| \|s\|=3D\______/=3D\|s\| \|s\|=3D\|_____\|=3D\|s\| \|x\|--\|_____\|--\|x\| \|s\| \|s\| \|s\| \|s\| \|x\| \|x\| '60 Daimler Ferret '42 Daimler Dingo '42 Humber MkIV (1/3) ---------------------------------------------------------- ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>

07-20-2004, 16:04	#3 (permalink)
Greg Civilians	Re: [MV] axle change? front to back? The air shift front axle is just an axle - the air shift axle part is somewhat of a misnomer, in that the shifting is accomplished at the transfer case. The axles themselves (meaning housings) are interchangeable. It sounds like you're combining manual air/electric/cable lockers and air shift in one idea... So, no this wouldn't do anything. Unless someone wants to build a customized triple output transfer case, with air shifts for two or three axles. It would have to be someone with much more time and money than I have. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Racz" <docdrrd@hotmail.com> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 5:13 AM Subject: [MV] axle change? front to back? [color=blue] > > > > > > > > > > > Ok I know there has been much talk about disconnect and stuff to the rear[/color] axle's. I can't do this but can you just take an air-shift front axle and replace the front rear with it? I am not sure of the distance right to left if it end up wider or not but not sure if it will matter if you change to singles also. I would think you can weld or bolt the steering linkage in a way so it does not move? And the just tie in the air lint to the front or another valve to control it. I do not know if this will change the carry capacity? Front cap. vs rear axle? Is it the axle or springs or something else or both? This is just an idea that someone may of already thought of as a less expensive way if you have an extra axle or two laying around. Yes I guess you could do it to both? Then you can control which if any axle is driven. The only problem I have thought of if this is done to all axles would be parking brake.... or lack of one. If I am right no air means axle is disconnected right? so if it sits and looses air the parking brake on the drive shaft would not hold? or does it stay engaged till switched off? Not sure if its spring loaded to keep engaged or not, but that would only be if you do both anyway. Remember this was just an idea... I am running for cover now..[color=blue] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------[/color] ------[color=blue] > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE[/color] download! ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to To reach a human, contact ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>

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