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| Civilians | ms smartphone is a handicapped pocket pc pocket pc is a handicapped tablet pc Windows Mobile has no bright future. simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc have future. bill gates doesn´t take seriously the whole Windows Mobile for a reason and this reason is that simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc (both with bluetoooth) willl be the winnners. so stop wettting your pants about Windows Mobile because it gonna die.... |
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| Civilians | This post does not represent Microsoft's plans for the future of the Pocket PC, SmartPhone or Tablet PC. I have been covering both the Pocket PC and Tablet PC since before Microsoft announced them. Microsoft continues to focus on all of them separately because they have different features and capabilities. This is especially true for the battery capabilities, alarms, and size. There is no device that runs the Tablet PC OS that is very small. The lightest is 2 lbs and it's from NEC. Yes there are small Windows XP machines such as the OQO however it does not even have 8 hours battery life. Further it has no cell phone capabilies and it's about $2,000. At the same time, the Pocket PC allows for high speed data input, long battery life and instant on. Also, the small Pocket PCs such as the 4150 which weighs about 4 ounces is much smaller than any Windows XP machine. Also, the instant on is a huge deal for users - that's how you get your alarms for appointments, ability to call someone without a 2 minute boot time, etc. The SmartPhone is all about being a phone first. So it focuses on the ability to place and recieve calls and integrate it with the PIM. It does add additional features such as Windows Media Player. The units do not have a touch screen so data input takes more keystrokes just like it does on other cell phones. Also, the standby time is over 100 hours and talk time is over 2 hours and instant on for alarms like the Pocket PC. Overall, I have written previously on my thoughts on these issues at "What is in The Future of Windows Mobile Pocket PCs?" http://www.cewindows.net/commentary/future-wm.htm -- Chris De Herrera http://www.cewindows.net http://www.tabletpctalk.com "www.msmobile.com" <nospam@msmobile.com> wrote in message news:eC$bxsMJEHA.3216@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > ms smartphone is a handicapped pocket pc > > pocket pc is a handicapped tablet pc > > Windows Mobile has no bright future. > > simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc have future. > > bill gates doesn´t take seriously the whole Windows Mobile for a reason > and > this reason is that simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc (both > with bluetoooth) willl be the winnners. > > so stop wettting your pants about Windows Mobile because it gonna die.... > > > |
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| Civilians | Dude, seriously. Get a life already. And quit posting the drawings of your 2 year old in this non-binary group. ~S. "www.msmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in news:eC$bxsMJEHA.3216@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl: > ms smartphone is a handicapped pocket pc > > pocket pc is a handicapped tablet pc > > Windows Mobile has no bright future. > > simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc have future. > > bill gates doesn´t take seriously the whole Windows Mobile for a reason > and this reason is that simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc > (both with bluetoooth) willl be the winnners. > > so stop wettting your pants about Windows Mobile because it gonna > die.... > > > begin 666 end.gif > Attachment decoded: ..\Xnews\attachments\end.gif > ` > end > -- ====================== ACE!!! a.k.a. ~S. OS. Osaris / Psion 5mx iPAQ 5550 / Nokia 6310 HTTP://www.xarane.com ====================== |
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| Civilians | On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00 29 +0200, "www.msmobiles.com"<nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote: >ms smartphone is a handicapped pocket pc Fair point but the additioan dial features are useful to some. >pocket pc is a handicapped tablet pc Disagree, you're taking out of your arse, they are quite different applications and markets. >Windows Mobile has no bright future. Disagree, it does well what it's intended to do. I use it a lot for what I need at the time. It's not intended to replace a fully fledged PC - thats what a dock station is for :-p >simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc have future. 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| Civilians | "www.msmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in message news:eC$bxsMJEHA.3216@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > ms smartphone is a handicapped pocket pc > > pocket pc is a handicapped tablet pc a tablet pc is a handicapped notebook a notebook is a handicapped notebook desktop replacement a notebook desktop replacement is a handicapped desktop a desktop is a handicapped entry level server an entry level server is a handicapped mid-range server a mid-range server is a handicapped mainframe the prime directive of a flip-flop is to replace all carbon based life-forms on planet Earth (but you knew that) |
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| Civilians | Guess you are not aware that the SmartPhone runs a flavor of Windows Mobile. If your stated objective is to promote the SmartPhone platform, I would think you would be aware of OS it runs. Whether OEMs continue to produce devices that support the PPC or PPCPE flavor of Windows Mobile 2003 would seem to be a business decision. Currently I am happy to use a PPC in conjunction with a cell phone (non-Smartphone, data and BT capable). That is not an unusual combination. Currently I find the PPCPE too expensive and a bit large to use as a single device if I require phone features. The Smartphone is a bit under-capable, browser, Office support, to be useful to me as a single device. I am also not keen on the lack of touch screen input, though that is key to the 'phone' concept. That is just me. It certainly doesn't imply that is the gospel. There are different people out there with different needs and scenarios. That's why there are options. Kind of sad you feel the need to denigrate other options rather than just extolling the virtues of yours. Kind of reminds me of American politics. The key seems to be to make yourself look better by telling how bad the others are. As far as Tablets go, when did they become any more mobile than laptops. They have some unique and desirable formats and input options, but they are essentially the next logical step in laptops. The Army seems to understand the difference in transportable and mobile. Transportable you can move. Mobile you can use while you are moving. Laptops and Tablets are more Transportable than Mobile, IMHO. I'm unlikely to pop out my Laptop or Tablet at the airport gate to check flight times, while that is a typical use for my PPC. Yea I could pull out a Smartphone to do that, but then if I needed to e-mail, IM or SMS a friend about the delay I'd much rather do that via Calligrapher than T9. So the platforms co-exist. If there were only Smartphones, I don't think all the PPC and PPCPE users, and potential users would naturally gravitate and buy one. There are a lot of non-MS options out there. Good ones too. Henry Ford got away with only selling black only until there were other options. -- Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices "www.msmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in message news:eC$bxsMJEHA.3216@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > ms smartphone is a handicapped pocket pc > > pocket pc is a handicapped tablet pc > > Windows Mobile has no bright future. > > simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc have future. > > bill gates doesn´t take seriously the whole Windows Mobile for a reason and > this reason is that simple cellphone in combination with tablet pc (both > with bluetoooth) willl be the winnners. > > so stop wettting your pants about Windows Mobile because it gonna die.... > > > |
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| Civilians | In <news:eC$bxsMJEHA.3216@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, www.msmobiles.com typed: > ms smartphone is a handicapped pocket pc Please do not feed the troll. |
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