Re: Fixing the Yankees? A Column that Makes Sense

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:09 GMT, thus spake slatconsulting <ojai@yahoo.com>:
>
> Every year we see these columns and every year the suggestions don't work.
> Screw expensive free-agents and REBUILD like the Indians and White Sox.

Yeah, let's trade for or sign:

BATTERY
P Freddy Garcia '04 M's
P Jose Contreras '04 Yankees
P El Duque '04 Yankees
P Dustin Hermanson '04 Giants
P Luis Vizcaino '04 Brewers
P Cliff Politte '03 Jays
P Damaso Marte '01 Pirates
C A.J. Pierzynski '04 Giants

IF
1B Paul Konerko '98 Dodgers
2B Tadahito Iguchi '04 Japanese Pacific League
SS Juan Uribe '03 Rockies

OF
OF Scott Posednik '04 Brewers
OF Jermaine Dye '04 A's
DH Carl Everett '04 Expos

BENCH
C Chris Widger '03 Cards
2B Pablo Ozuna '03 Rockies
2B Willie Harris '01 O's
3B Geoff Blum '05 Padres
OF Timo Perez '03 Mets

Oh, you meant their farm system, didn't you? Hmmm.
Darn, according to Alan Jones (alan@alanjones.us),
he says that the Yankees are the only club
that buys up or trades for all the best players.
Poor little Pittsburgh with their tiny little market
couldn't possibly dream of accomplishing what
the White Sox did.

The White Sox farm system produced 6 players of
their current 25-man roster (and the 19 above
by free agent signings or trades):

P Mark Buerle 3.12 ERA 236 IP
P Jon Garland 3.50 ERA 221 IP
P Neal Cotts 1.94 ERA 60 IP
P Bobby Jenks 2.75 ERA 39 IP
3B Joe Crede .252 BA, .757 OPS
OF Aaron Rowand .270 BA, .736 OPS

How about if we just sign Ken Williams as GM
and Ozzie Guillen as manager instead?

luxor1275bc@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:09 GMT, thus spake slatconsulting <ojai@yahoo.com>:
> >
They ought to fix the Yankees. We don't want those people reproducing.

> P Mark Buerle 3.12 ERA 236 IP
> P Jon Garland 3.50 ERA 221 IP
> P Neal Cotts 1.94 ERA 60 IP
> P Bobby Jenks 2.75 ERA 39 IP
> 3B Joe Crede .252 BA, .757 OPS
> OF Aaron Rowand .270 BA, .736 OPS

Reduce this by one - Jenks was an Angels' farmhand.

But, in this case, give Chicago credit. Because anyone in baseball
could have had Jenks if they wanted him.

luxor1275bc@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:09 GMT, thus spake slatconsulting <ojai@yahoo.com>:
> The White Sox farm system produced 6 players of
> their current 25-man roster (and the 19 above
> by free agent signings or trades):
>
> P Mark Buerle 3.12 ERA 236 IP
> P Jon Garland 3.50 ERA 221 IP
> P Neal Cotts 1.94 ERA 60 IP
> P Bobby Jenks 2.75 ERA 39 IP
> 3B Joe Crede .252 BA, .757 OPS
> OF Aaron Rowand .270 BA, .736 OPS
>

Reduce by another - Neal Cotts was acquired from Oakland in a trade.

Greg Schuler wrote:
> luxor1275bc@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:09 GMT, thus spake slatconsulting <ojai@yahoo.com>:
> > The White Sox farm system produced 6 players of
> > their current 25-man roster (and the 19 above
> > by free agent signings or trades):
> >
> > P Mark Buerle 3.12 ERA 236 IP
> > P Jon Garland 3.50 ERA 221 IP
> > P Neal Cotts 1.94 ERA 60 IP
> > P Bobby Jenks 2.75 ERA 39 IP
> > 3B Joe Crede .252 BA, .757 OPS
> > OF Aaron Rowand .270 BA, .736 OPS
> >
>
> Reduce by another - Neal Cotts was acquired from Oakland in a trade.

Well, if you want to be picky, Jon Garland came from the Cubs.

On 20 Oct 2005 0543 -0700, thus spake "Greg Schuler" <schuleg@comcast.net>:
>
>luxor1275bc@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:09 GMT, thus spake slatconsulting <ojai@yahoo.com>:
>> The White Sox farm system produced 6 players of
>> their current 25-man roster (and the 19 above
>> by free agent signings or trades):
>>
>> P Mark Buerle 3.12 ERA 236 IP
>> P Jon Garland 3.50 ERA 221 IP
>> P Neal Cotts 1.94 ERA 60 IP
>> P Bobby Jenks 2.75 ERA 39 IP
>> 3B Joe Crede .252 BA, .757 OPS
>> OF Aaron Rowand .270 BA, .736 OPS
>>
>
>Reduce by another - Neal Cotts was acquired from Oakland in a trade.

Thanks. I'm obviously not a White Sox fan and that's the most time
that I ever spent on their team in my life. I have to admit that
I only looked in each player's career as far as whether they
began their career with Chicago or someone else. I thought that
there might be instances of what you and others have surfaced
but just didn't have enough time to look into it myself.

So that reduces the AL Champion's homegrown talent to four:

>> P Mark Buerle 3.12 ERA 236 IP
>> P Jon Garland 3.50 ERA 221 IP
>> 3B Joe Crede .252 BA, .757 OPS
>> OF Aaron Rowand .270 BA, .736 OPS

So what until you unwind who was traded for who? Teams draft best
prospects knowing guys take time to develop, get hurt, or can't cut it.
Some times you are overstocked in a position and trade the excess. One
example is Hefner who Texas drafted in 1996 and was traded to Cleveland
after his rookie season in 2002. Sounds dumb except Texas drafted
Teixeira in 2001.

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> On 20 Oct 2005 0543 -0700, thus spake "Greg Schuler"
> <schuleg@comcast.net>:
>>
>>luxor1275bc@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:09 GMT, thus spake slatconsulting
>>> <ojai@yahoo.com>:
>>> The White Sox farm system produced 6 players of
>>> their current 25-man roster (and the 19 above
>>> by free agent signings or trades):
>>>
>>> P Mark Buerle 3.12 ERA 236 IP
>>> P Jon Garland 3.50 ERA 221 IP
>>> P Neal Cotts 1.94 ERA 60 IP
>>> P Bobby Jenks 2.75 ERA 39 IP
>>> 3B Joe Crede .252 BA, .757 OPS
>>> OF Aaron Rowand .270 BA, .736 OPS
>>>
>>
>>Reduce by another - Neal Cotts was acquired from Oakland in a trade.
>
> Thanks. I'm obviously not a White Sox fan and that's the most time
> that I ever spent on their team in my life. I have to admit that
> I only looked in each player's career as far as whether they
> began their career with Chicago or someone else. I thought that
> there might be instances of what you and others have surfaced
> but just didn't have enough time to look into it myself.
>
> So that reduces the AL Champion's homegrown talent to four:
>
>>> P Mark Buerle 3.12 ERA 236 IP
>>> P Jon Garland 3.50 ERA 221 IP
>>> 3B Joe Crede .252 BA, .757 OPS
>>> OF Aaron Rowand .270 BA, .736 OPS