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Old 10-22-2004, 20:00   #1 (permalink)
Rick Reeves
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Default Poor Sportsmanship!

I would like to know if I'm the only one who thinks that baseball has
a sportsmanship problem? The reason I ask this is I'm a casual fan
who usually watches during big games or the playoffs when they finally
arrive.

I just finished watching the Red Sox beat up on the mighty Yankess.
When the game was over I didn't see one Red Sox player or coach go
over to the Yankees. They could have gone over and said thanks for
the great series and that sort of thing, but you never see it. Why is
that? It would do a world of good for baseball to at least appear to
be good sports, but everytime a team wins a series of any kind they
have a little party on the pitchers mound and don't even tip there hat
to the other side.

I just had to get that off of my chest.

Let me know what you think!

Later,

Rick
 
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Old 10-22-2004, 20:00   #2 (permalink)
Triple
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Default Re: Poor Sportsmanship!

Did you see the final game of the division series between the Cards and the
Dodgers? The entire Dodger team went out and shook the hands of every
Cardinal. There is class in baseball.

The problem is the game does not discipline its players when they are jerks.
I submit two examples.

First, A-rod beating the ball out of the hand of the Sox pitcher covering
first base. The rule book defines that as unsportsmanlike conduct. I've seen
this in the regular season and the player was suspended. But be a jerk in
the play offs and the commissioner becomes a coward claiming that they
shouldn't control the outcome of the series. Consistently enforcing the
rules is not controlling the outcome.

Example two: Sammy Sosa. Pete Rose was banned from the game because his
gambling could have given him incentive to cheat and throw a game. Sammy
Sosa's corked bat was a direct action with the INTENT of cheating with the
INTENT of altering the outcome of a game. Yet the powers that be do not have
the moral fiber necessary to ban him (and the others that try this stunt)
from the game. All they'd have to do, is ban one big name player and you'd
never see the Sosas, Alomars and Bells ever again. Then, we'd have a game we
could respect.

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"Rick Reeves" <rreeves@sc2000.net> wrote in message
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> I would like to know if I'm the only one who thinks that baseball has
> a sportsmanship problem? The reason I ask this is I'm a casual fan
> who usually watches during big games or the playoffs when they finally
> arrive.
>
> I just finished watching the Red Sox beat up on the mighty Yankess.
> When the game was over I didn't see one Red Sox player or coach go
> over to the Yankees. They could have gone over and said thanks for
> the great series and that sort of thing, but you never see it. Why is
> that? It would do a world of good for baseball to at least appear to
> be good sports, but everytime a team wins a series of any kind they
> have a little party on the pitchers mound and don't even tip there hat
> to the other side.
>
> I just had to get that off of my chest.
>
> Let me know what you think!
>
> Later,
>
> Rick



 
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Old 10-22-2004, 20:00   #3 (permalink)
Randall Bart
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Default Re: Poor Sportsmanship!

'Twas 20 Oct 2004 21:36:33 -0700 when all alt.sports.baseball stood in awe
as rreeves@sc2000.net (Rick Reeves) uttered:

>I just finished watching the Red Sox beat up on the mighty Yankess.
>When the game was over I didn't see one Red Sox player or coach go
>over to the Yankees. They could have gone over and said thanks for
>the great series and that sort of thing, but you never see it.


Bizarre as it seems, it's taboo in baseball. I recall about 20 years ago,
a player went out during batting practice and shook hands with a former
teammate. They were both criticized, and the commissioner investigated.
They were told not to do that, because it suggested there was collusion.
When players greet other players, they are supposed to do it out of sight
of the fans.
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Old 10-22-2004, 20:00   #4 (permalink)
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'Twas Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:30:12 -0700 when all alt.sports.baseball stood
in awe as "Triple" <r1h5aag6er4@comcast.net> uttered:

>
>Example two: Sammy Sosa. Pete Rose was banned from the game because his
>gambling could have given him incentive to cheat and throw a game. Sammy
>Sosa's corked bat was a direct action with the INTENT of cheating with the
>INTENT of altering the outcome of a game. Yet the powers that be do not have
>the moral fiber necessary to ban him (and the others that try this stunt)
>from the game. All they'd have to do, is ban one big name player and you'd
>never see the Sosas, Alomars and Bells ever again. Then, we'd have a game we
>could respect.


Sosa claims it was a bat he used for hitting homers in batting practice to
entertain the crowd. The league seized over 70 bats from Sosa's locker,
and that was his only corked bat. Sosa shouldn't be punished any worse
than a pitcher who throws at a batter.
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Old 10-22-2004, 20:00   #5 (permalink)
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"Randall Bart" <Barticus@att.spam.net> wrote in message

> Sosa claims it was a bat he used for hitting homers in batting practice to
> entertain the crowd. The league seized over 70 bats from Sosa's locker,
> and that was his only corked bat. Sosa shouldn't be punished any worse
> than a pitcher who throws at a batter.



So you'll take the word of a man that has admitted to, at the very least,
deceiving the fans at batting practice? It still shows an utter lack of
integrity. Cheating is cheating. Throwing at a batter is a legal part of the
game. It is very hard to judge intent. Was it high and tight or headhunting?
There is no question that a man with a corked bat is cheating. He should get
no less punishment than Pete Rose.

True enough about the bat confiscation but the barrel of the corked bat
disappeared. The scuttlebutt is that he used a different player's bat to
cork. So, if this happened, he could tell is prepared lie.

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