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| Civilians | I don't know about this, sounds fishy, but the label in the engine compartment says you must add some additive to the coolant other than regular antifreeze, and it's a dealer only item. Never heard of such a thing, and the label says it will damage the engine and cooling system without it. What is the stuff, do I really need it, what's it do? |
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| Civilians | What's it say EXACTLY? GW no@way.com wrote: > I don't know about this, sounds fishy, but the label in the engine > compartment says you must add some additive to the coolant other than > regular antifreeze, and it's a dealer only item. > > Never heard of such a thing, and the label says it will damage the engine > and cooling system without it. > > What is the stuff, do I really need it, what's it do? > > > |
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| Civilians | >the label in the engine compartment says > you must add some additive to the > coolant other than regular antifreeze, > and it's a dealer only item. Yes, it's required to seal the coolant passages inside the engine. The engine is an AL block/iron head type engine. Dissimlar metals. The sealant is a bag of large tablets that cost less than $5 (GM part #3634621) Dealers carry it but so do any parts places that also carry AC/Delco parts. Failure to use the sealer is the main cause of failure in these engines. Use all the tablets each time the cooling system is drained/flushed. Dave S(Texas) |
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| Civilians | On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 04:40:42 GMT, <no@way.com> wrote: >I don't know about this, sounds fishy, but the label in the engine >compartment says you must add some additive to the coolant other than >regular antifreeze, and it's a dealer only item. > >Never heard of such a thing, and the label says it will damage the engine >and cooling system without it. > >What is the stuff, do I really need it, what's it do? > > Yes, it is necessary. Bars Leaks is the OEM product under the manufacturers name. Look here.. http://www.barsproducts.com/origin.html Use all 6 pellets of HCC or 2 tubes of G12BP. I've bought it at KMart and a couple of auto parts stores over the years. Note Dave's explanation of what it does and why it is needed. I use it in my Eldo, the wife's Camry, the daughter's Mirage and it will be going into my new Chevy van. A lot of people don't like it because it makes the coolant look muddy. Better that than new head gaskets. FWIW YMMV DFB For email remove "_no_spam_" |
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| Civilians | I've never used these pellets (30+ years of car ownership with some well into the 100K mile range) and have not had a single engine coolant leak problem. A couple of hoses, yes...but never engine or gasket. This sounds fishy to me. Why would a properly designed coolant system and gaskets in a "young" engine require a "coolant sealer" product. This used to be needed only in very old engines (back in the 60's and 70's). Why would a new/young engine need such a thing? |
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| Civilians | My opinion was that this was a band-aid for a poorly designed product. This won't change GM's position, however. Subaru has recently implented a recall on many of their vehicles which requires the dealer to add stop-leak to the system to help prevent head gasket leaks and help seal ones that already exist. I think this is equally bogus and that the manufacturers are simply trying to save money because their product has a problem they don't want to fix correctly. |
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| Civilians | no@way.com wrote: > I don't know about this, sounds fishy, but the label in the engine > compartment says you must add some additive to the coolant other than > regular antifreeze, and it's a dealer only item. > > Never heard of such a thing, and the label says it will damage the > engine and cooling system without it. > > What is the stuff, do I really need it, what's it do? You need it, it's organic and will not do any harm to the engine, and it should be installed every two years along with a complete change of your coolant. Trust me, your engine will be better for it if you just follow the factories advice on this one. Ian |
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