Re: Pontiac G6 Review

none wrote:

> That is odd about daytime running lights and automatic wiper interval delay
> (rain sensor) being not wanted??
> DRLs: In my view it is a safety feature especially on country road, early
> morning or late in evening. DRLs increases visibility for other drivers
> (like motorcycle). Why would a safety feature bother you?

Half-power highbeams are the problem. They aren't lowbeams,
as they are in Canada and Europe. They tend to annoy and
blind other drivers.

"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> none wrote:
>
>> That is odd about daytime running lights and automatic wiper interval
>> delay
>> (rain sensor) being not wanted??
>> DRLs: In my view it is a safety feature especially on country road, early
>> morning or late in evening. DRLs increases visibility for other drivers
>> (like motorcycle). Why would a safety feature bother you?
>
> Half-power highbeams are the problem. They aren't lowbeams,
> as they are in Canada and Europe. They tend to annoy and
> blind other drivers.
>

Especially those over 50 that tend to be more sensitive to light...which
will apply to some of us eventually.

"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> none wrote:
>
> > That is odd about daytime running lights and automatic wiper interval
delay
> > (rain sensor) being not wanted??
> > DRLs: In my view it is a safety feature especially on country road,
early
> > morning or late in evening. DRLs increases visibility for other drivers
> > (like motorcycle). Why would a safety feature bother you?
>
> Half-power highbeams are the problem. They aren't lowbeams,
> as they are in Canada and Europe. They tend to annoy and
> blind other drivers.
>
How is one blinded in the daytime? They must already be partly blind and
have no bidness on the road.

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>> "Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> How is one blinded in the daytime? They must already be partly blind and
>> have no bidness on the road.
>>
>>
>
> If you've ever shined a flashlight in your grandmothers eyes in the
> daytime and watched her wince in pain, you'd understand. A direct beam in
> the eyes can be quite intense.
>

Now you're stretching it James. But to go from the ridiculous to the
sublime, I would suggest to you that if your grandmother was driving down
the street in the daytime and I was coming from the opposite direction and
shone a flashlight into her eyes, she wouldn't even see it! Hell, she might
not even see my car!



Having children is hereditary - if your parents didn't have any, neither
will you.
Sting Ray

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> "James C. Reeves" <jcnospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>>> How is one blinded in the daytime? They must already be partly blind
>>> and have no bidness on the road.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you've ever shined a flashlight in your grandmothers eyes in the
>> daytime and watched her wince in pain, you'd understand. A direct
>> beam in the eyes can be quite intense.
>>
>
> Now you're stretching it James. But to go from the ridiculous to the
> sublime, I would suggest to you that if your grandmother was driving
> down the street in the daytime and I was coming from the opposite
> direction and shone a flashlight into her eyes, she wouldn't even see
> it! Hell, she might not even see my car!
>
>
>
> Having children is hereditary - if your parents didn't have any,
> neither will you.
> Sting Ray
>
>
So you have never been on a long trip and got blinded by headlights in
daylight. I remember years ago driving on holidays when people were told to
turn on their head lights by radio stations but nothing was said about
making sure you put them on dim.
I think having head lights on motorcycles turned on is self survival, but I
don't believe they help one iota on a clear bright day with cars.

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>>>> "Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>>>> How is one blinded in the daytime? They must already be partly blind
>>>> and have no bidness on the road.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you've ever shined a flashlight in your grandmothers eyes in the
>>> daytime and watched her wince in pain, you'd understand. A direct
>>> beam in the eyes can be quite intense.
>>>
>>
>> Now you're stretching it James. But to go from the ridiculous to the
>> sublime, I would suggest to you that if your grandmother was driving
>> down the street in the daytime and I was coming from the opposite
>> direction and shone a flashlight into her eyes, she wouldn't even see
>> it! Hell, she might not even see my car!
>>
>>
>>
>> Having children is hereditary - if your parents didn't have any,
>> neither will you.
>> Sting Ray
>>
>>
> So you have never been on a long trip and got blinded by headlights in
> daylight. I remember years ago driving on holidays when people were told
> to
> turn on their head lights by radio stations but nothing was said about
> making sure you put them on dim.
> I think having head lights on motorcycles turned on is self survival, but
> I
> don't believe they help one iota on a clear bright day with cars.
>

They don't help...and 10-years of insurance loss data seems to prove it.

The worst are the high beam DRL on trucks that pull up from behind and sit
at a stoplight. The lights are above the trunk height and shine directly
(and intensely) into the drivers eyes from the rear-view or side mirrors.
It isn't too bad back when also driving high profile vehicles myself (which
also has dark tinted rear windows). However, if in a sedan, it seems the
rear-view mirrors are right in the path of the most intense part of the beam
(on high-beam DRL implementations).

But, again, this thread is about sales and what can impact it. This is a
very good point though. If people driving ANY make notice what make cars
annoy them most with their high-beam lights on all day long, and they desire
not to be annoying themselves, they will come to the conclusion to avoid the
GM brand in any future consideration for their next vehicle.

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>>> "Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>> How is one blinded in the daytime? They must already be partly blind and
>>> have no bidness on the road.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you've ever shined a flashlight in your grandmothers eyes in the
>> daytime and watched her wince in pain, you'd understand. A direct beam
>> in the eyes can be quite intense.
>>
>
> Now you're stretching it James. But to go from the ridiculous to the
> sublime, I would suggest to you that if your grandmother was driving down
> the street in the daytime and I was coming from the opposite direction and
> shone a flashlight into her eyes, she wouldn't even see it! Hell, she
> might not even see my car!
>
>
>
> Having children is hereditary - if your parents didn't have any, neither
> will you.
> Sting Ray
>

Apparently you've never done it to you grandmother. I only did it once!!
:-) And, a 3-watt flashlight beam is not nearly as intense as the beam
that emanates from a a 55-watt high beam lamp.