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In article <1ec42467.0412251939.5487e717@posting.google.com >, Pete wrote:

> A few months ago, I received a recall notice from Ford Motors stating
> that the front coil springs of my 2000 Taurus could fracture due to
> corrosion. The fractured spring could move past the spring seat and
> contact a front tire could result in a crash. Dealers will install
> protective spring shields, which would be available in a few months.

This spring corrosion recall seems to keep poping up for different
vehicles (makes and models). This has to be third one I've heard of.

> 1) I have just done an Internet research on front coil fractures.
> Other than one Subaru car once in mid 1990's, Ford Motors is the only
> car manufacturer, which had many of its vehicle models (Windstar,
> Lincoln, Focus, Sable, Taurus etc.) having the fractured front coil
> springs causing recalls since early 1990's.

This has to be false. The '89 MX6 that has been sitting for ~4 years
in a garage has been recalled for spring corrosion. While the model
year is before the early 90s the recall is fairly recent. (since the car
was taken off the road)

> 3) If Ford Motors cares about its customers, it would replace the old
> coil springs with springs less subject to corrosion, as other car
> manufacturers have been using, rather than installing a shield to it
> as Ford has done for these fractured springs since early 1990's. As
> it stands, I keep worrying that the coil springs of my Ford Taurus
> might break in a cold winter day while I am on the highway.

I doubt there is any signficant chance of it. The shields are no cheaper
to make and odds are no cheaper to install than new springs. My guess is
there are other factors that prevent changing the spring design.

FORD Taurus – Coil Spring Recalls – FORD IRRESPONSIBLE

A few months ago, I received a recall notice from Ford Motors stating
that the front coil springs of my 2000 Taurus could fracture due to
corrosion. The fractured spring could move past the spring seat and
contact a front tire could result in a crash. Dealers will install
protective spring shields, which would be available in a few months.

For a few months until the shields finally arrived last week, I had
been worrying about that my Taurus would kill me as I use it on the
freeway quite a lot.

When I took my car back yesterday to install the shield, the
dealership driver who took me back to work told me that he had seen a
few Taurus cars which had the coil springs broke and some of the parts
(e.g., ball joint, etc.) were damaged after the break.

This is my first Ford car, and I have been very dissatisfied with it
for the following reasons:


1) I have just done an Internet research on front coil fractures.
Other than one Subaru car once in mid 1990's, Ford Motors is the only
car manufacturer, which had many of its vehicle models (Windstar,
Lincoln, Focus, Sable, Taurus etc.) having the fractured front coil
springs causing recalls since early 1990's.
2) If Ford Motor were a responsible company, it would have built a
better front coil spring for all its cars since the problem happened
in early 1990's for its Taurus and Sable cars. Instead, it kept on
building these poor quality coil springs subject to corrosion and
causing accidents while driving at high speed on highways. Without
any regard to the safety of its customers. Shame shame.
3) If Ford Motors cares about its customers, it would replace the old
coil springs with springs less subject to corrosion, as other car
manufacturers have been using, rather than installing a shield to it
as Ford has done for these fractured springs since early 1990's. As
it stands, I keep worrying that the coil springs of my Ford Taurus
might break in a cold winter day while I am on the highway.

LOL!

My dad had one of those pieces of junk and the engine fell out on him as
he was taking a corner ramp onto the highway!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Pete wrote:
>
> FORD Taurus – Coil Spring Recalls – FORD IRRESPONSIBLE
>
> A few months ago, I received a recall notice from Ford Motors stating
> that the front coil springs of my 2000 Taurus could fracture due to
> corrosion. The fractured spring could move past the spring seat and
> contact a front tire could result in a crash. Dealers will install
> protective spring shields, which would be available in a few months.
>
> For a few months until the shields finally arrived last week, I had
> been worrying about that my Taurus would kill me as I use it on the
> freeway quite a lot.
>
> When I took my car back yesterday to install the shield, the
> dealership driver who took me back to work told me that he had seen a
> few Taurus cars which had the coil springs broke and some of the parts
> (e.g., ball joint, etc.) were damaged after the break.
>
> This is my first Ford car, and I have been very dissatisfied with it
> for the following reasons:
>
> 1) I have just done an Internet research on front coil fractures.
> Other than one Subaru car once in mid 1990's, Ford Motors is the only
> car manufacturer, which had many of its vehicle models (Windstar,
> Lincoln, Focus, Sable, Taurus etc.) having the fractured front coil
> springs causing recalls since early 1990's.
> 2) If Ford Motor were a responsible company, it would have built a
> better front coil spring for all its cars since the problem happened
> in early 1990's for its Taurus and Sable cars. Instead, it kept on
> building these poor quality coil springs subject to corrosion and
> causing accidents while driving at high speed on highways. Without
> any regard to the safety of its customers. Shame shame.
> 3) If Ford Motors cares about its customers, it would replace the old
> coil springs with springs less subject to corrosion, as other car
> manufacturers have been using, rather than installing a shield to it
> as Ford has done for these fractured springs since early 1990's. As
> it stands, I keep worrying that the coil springs of my Ford Taurus
> might break in a cold winter day while I am on the highway.

Ford irresponsible?

Hello, did you read the badge on the car? It says "FORD". There's your
problem!

Youse buys blue oval, youse takes your chances...

Pete a écrit :
> FORD Taurus – Coil Spring Recalls – FORD IRRESPONSIBLE
>


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In article <OJqzd.257281$V41.84801@attbi_s52>,
Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <1ec42467.0412251939.5487e717@posting.google.com >, Pete wrote:
>
>> 1) I have just done an Internet research on front coil fractures.
>> Other than one Subaru car once in mid 1990's, Ford Motors is the only
>> car manufacturer, which had many of its vehicle models (Windstar,
>> Lincoln, Focus, Sable, Taurus etc.) having the fractured front coil
>> springs causing recalls since early 1990's.
>
>This has to be false. The '89 MX6 that has been sitting for ~4 years
>in a garage has been recalled for spring corrosion. While the model
>year is before the early 90s the recall is fairly recent. (since the car
>was taken off the road)

MX-6 = Ford Probe.

In article <DNidnaX3Zc7uRE3cRVn-hg@speakeasy.net>, Matthew Russotto wrote:
> In article <OJqzd.257281$V41.84801@attbi_s52>,
> Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>In article <1ec42467.0412251939.5487e717@posting.google.com >, Pete wrote:
>>
>>> 1) I have just done an Internet research on front coil fractures.
>>> Other than one Subaru car once in mid 1990's, Ford Motors is the only
>>> car manufacturer, which had many of its vehicle models (Windstar,
>>> Lincoln, Focus, Sable, Taurus etc.) having the fractured front coil
>>> springs causing recalls since early 1990's.
>>
>>This has to be false. The '89 MX6 that has been sitting for ~4 years
>>in a garage has been recalled for spring corrosion. While the model
>>year is before the early 90s the recall is fairly recent. (since the car
>>was taken off the road)
>
> MX-6 = Ford Probe.

The design is mazda not ford.

It's the 626 platform that was designed before Ford became the controling
interest in mazda.

The reason the probe had bumps in it's hood was due to putting the
styling ford wanted on the mazda platform.

peterhill2005@hotmail.com (Pete) writes:

> FORD Taurus Coil Spring Recalls FORD IRRESPONSIBLE
>
> A few months ago, I received a recall notice from Ford Motors stating
> that the front coil springs of my 2000 Taurus could fracture due to
> corrosion. The fractured spring could move past the spring seat and
> contact a front tire could result in a crash. Dealers will install
> protective spring shields, which would be available in a few months.
>
> For a few months until the shields finally arrived last week, I had
> been worrying about that my Taurus would kill me as I use it on the
> freeway quite a lot.
>
> When I took my car back yesterday to install the shield, the
> dealership driver who took me back to work told me that he had seen a
> few Taurus cars which had the coil springs broke and some of the parts
> (e.g., ball joint, etc.) were damaged after the break.
>
> This is my first Ford car, and I have been very dissatisfied with it
> for the following reasons:
>
>
> 1) I have just done an Internet research on front coil fractures.

Apparently not enough.

> Other than one Subaru car once in mid 1990's, Ford Motors is the only
> car manufacturer, which had many of its vehicle models (Windstar,
> Lincoln, Focus, Sable, Taurus etc.) having the fractured front coil
> springs causing recalls since early 1990's.

Let's see. The first Ford recall for such a problem was on the 1993 Taurus
and Sable. The next seems to be for '97-'98 Contour and Mystique, followed by
the '95-'98 Windstar. Couldn't find any Lincoln recall for front coil springs
in the NHTSA database at <http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/downloads/list.html>.
And I don't see a pattern here; the 1994 Taurus, which shared the same design,
was never recalled, for example.

On the other hand, similar recalls were made on:

o 1993-95 Mazda MX-3
o Subaru Outback and Legacy 1995-99
o Nissan Sentra 1995-96
o Hyundai Accent 1995-97
o Jaguar XJ and Van den Plas, 1988
o BMW 7 series, 1995-1997

So Ford is not alone. NB: The 2000 Focus was never recalled; it just
gets a 10-year/150,000-mile warranty on its front springs.

> 2) If Ford Motor were a responsible company, it would have built a
> better front coil spring for all its cars

i.e., they wouldn't make mistakes.

> since the problem happened
> in early 1990's for its Taurus and Sable cars. Instead, it kept on
> building these poor quality coil springs subject to corrosion

Oh, please explain how to make any underbody component non "subject to
corrosion". They protected the springs well enough, as far as they
could tell. After years in service, the problem became evident and
they are dealing with it. Do you suggest that every vehicle be tested
for a decade before being offered for sale?

> and
> causing accidents while driving at high speed on highways.

Please quantify. How many accidents occurred "while driving at high
speed on highways" because of this problem?

> Without
> any regard to the safety of its customers. Shame shame.

I assure you that they didn't intend to recall hundreds of thousands
of vehicles. Even if they don't care about customers, they certainly
care about the mammoth expense of a wide recall.

> 3) If Ford Motors cares about its customers, it would replace the old
> coil springs with springs less subject to corrosion, as other car
> manufacturers have been using, rather than installing a shield to it
> as Ford has done for these fractured springs since early 1990's.

The point is to eliminate any tire puncture hazard, which is unlikely
in any event, without the expense of major suspension work. Subaru did
exactly the same thing.

> As
> it stands, I keep worrying that the coil springs of my Ford Taurus
> might break in a cold winter day while I am on the highway.

The danger is extremely exaggerated. I actually had a broken front
spring on a '95 Subaru; the only symptom was a noise while turning the
steering wheel. And the spring was replaced at no charge, just as Ford
will do for your Taurus. And since you have the spring shields, you
don't have to worry about a tire puncture. Of course, driving on a
smooth expressway is perhaps the least likely time for a spring to
break; turning into a steep driveway, for example, would put a much
higher load on the spring.

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