very, VERY strange...

Just a wild guess, but I would be checking the rad fan for a busted
clutch.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

bigbossfan80 wrote:
>
> It's been about 8 months now since anything has gone wrong with my 89
> Cutlass Supreme. I was starting to like not having to repair or
> replace, and instead just maintain!
>
> But lastnight I drove to Mississauga, Ontario to pick-up my brother.
> It's an hour and a half drive on the highway. Going there, everything
> was smooth as always. But, on the way back, about 20 minutes from
> home, I noticed quite a violent shaking and vibration through the gas
> pedal, floor board, and especially steering wheel/column. For some
> reason I thought right away that it was a transmission thing, but then
> I realized it was doing it in every gear, and ONLY when I was at a
> certain throttle point.
>
> For example, if I was 0-20% on the throttle, it was fine, 20-50%, it
> was shaking violently and wouldn't accelerate, and 50%+, it was
> fine!??
>
> It was also making loud, almost grinding noises. And the steering
> wheel shaking could be heard as well as fealt. Same with the gas
> pedal itself, I could feel it pulsating really violently in my foot.
>
> Needless to say I was very worried. Once I got onto city streets, I
> noticed it would even do it in 1st gear while starting to accelerate
> initially, then once I got past the throttle point in which it woud
> shake and rattle, it would stop until I was in the next gear and back
> at that same throttle point.
>
> It kind of felt to me like something was all-of-a-sudden very loose,
> like something in the steering rack, column, or drive-line. My
> brother is under the impression that it didn't start doing this until
> I had accidently drove over too far on the left hand side and ran over
> all those closely placed BUMPY things to make you slow down. But I am
> not sure this is the case...
>
> Anyways, what makes this SO strange, is that once I got off the
> highway and to my parents house, I shut the car off, parked it, and
> went inside for about 20 minutes. Then, when I went to leave to go
> home, I noticed that the shaking and vibrating was completely GONE!!!!
> What the hell!!?? Simply shutting the car off and parking it for 20
> minutes has somehow cured the problem!!?? I drove all lastnight and
> so-far today and it has not done the same thing once! Not even a
> little bit!
>
> So this has me totally flabergasted. Because I could see if it were
> an engine problem, then maybe reseting the engine by turning it off
> could possibly fix it, but this in no way felt like an engine problem
> at all! It felt completely like something was phyically damaged or
> disturbed. Maybe I'm wrong? I mean, I know when an engine has a
> mis-fire like a bad coil that the engine will shake violently under
> load, so maybe this is the case, but it definately didn't feel like it
> to me...
>
> Anyone have any input to this crazy story??
>
> THANKS GUYS!
>
> Merry X-mas

It's been about 8 months now since anything has gone wrong with my 89
Cutlass Supreme. I was starting to like not having to repair or
replace, and instead just maintain!

But lastnight I drove to Mississauga, Ontario to pick-up my brother.
It's an hour and a half drive on the highway. Going there, everything
was smooth as always. But, on the way back, about 20 minutes from
home, I noticed quite a violent shaking and vibration through the gas
pedal, floor board, and especially steering wheel/column. For some
reason I thought right away that it was a transmission thing, but then
I realized it was doing it in every gear, and ONLY when I was at a
certain throttle point.

For example, if I was 0-20% on the throttle, it was fine, 20-50%, it
was shaking violently and wouldn't accelerate, and 50%+, it was
fine!??

It was also making loud, almost grinding noises. And the steering
wheel shaking could be heard as well as fealt. Same with the gas
pedal itself, I could feel it pulsating really violently in my foot.

Needless to say I was very worried. Once I got onto city streets, I
noticed it would even do it in 1st gear while starting to accelerate
initially, then once I got past the throttle point in which it woud
shake and rattle, it would stop until I was in the next gear and back
at that same throttle point.

It kind of felt to me like something was all-of-a-sudden very loose,
like something in the steering rack, column, or drive-line. My
brother is under the impression that it didn't start doing this until
I had accidently drove over too far on the left hand side and ran over
all those closely placed BUMPY things to make you slow down. But I am
not sure this is the case...

Anyways, what makes this SO strange, is that once I got off the
highway and to my parents house, I shut the car off, parked it, and
went inside for about 20 minutes. Then, when I went to leave to go
home, I noticed that the shaking and vibrating was completely GONE!!!!
What the hell!!?? Simply shutting the car off and parking it for 20
minutes has somehow cured the problem!!?? I drove all lastnight and
so-far today and it has not done the same thing once! Not even a
little bit!

So this has me totally flabergasted. Because I could see if it were
an engine problem, then maybe reseting the engine by turning it off
could possibly fix it, but this in no way felt like an engine problem
at all! It felt completely like something was phyically damaged or
disturbed. Maybe I'm wrong? I mean, I know when an engine has a
mis-fire like a bad coil that the engine will shake violently under
load, so maybe this is the case, but it definately didn't feel like it
to me...

Anyone have any input to this crazy story??

THANKS GUYS!

Merry X-mas

On 23 Dec 2004 10:29:05 -0800, deanbrnz@yahoo.ca (bigbossfan80) wrote:

||It's been about 8 months now since anything has gone wrong with my 89
||Cutlass Supreme. I was starting to like not having to repair or
||replace, and instead just maintain!
||
||But lastnight I drove to Mississauga, Ontario to pick-up my brother.
||It's an hour and a half drive on the highway. Going there, everything
||was smooth as always. But, on the way back, about 20 minutes from
||home, I noticed quite a violent shaking and vibration through the gas
||pedal, floor board, and especially steering wheel/column. For some
||reason I thought right away that it was a transmission thing, but then
||I realized it was doing it in every gear, and ONLY when I was at a
||certain throttle point.
||
||For example, if I was 0-20% on the throttle, it was fine, 20-50%, it
||was shaking violently and wouldn't accelerate, and 50%+, it was
||fine!??
||
||It was also making loud, almost grinding noises. And the steering
||wheel shaking could be heard as well as fealt. Same with the gas
||pedal itself, I could feel it pulsating really violently in my foot.
||
||Needless to say I was very worried. Once I got onto city streets, I
||noticed it would even do it in 1st gear while starting to accelerate
||initially, then once I got past the throttle point in which it woud
||shake and rattle, it would stop until I was in the next gear and back
||at that same throttle point.
||
||It kind of felt to me like something was all-of-a-sudden very loose,
||like something in the steering rack, column, or drive-line. My
||brother is under the impression that it didn't start doing this until
||I had accidently drove over too far on the left hand side and ran over
||all those closely placed BUMPY things to make you slow down. But I am
||not sure this is the case...
||
||Anyways, what makes this SO strange, is that once I got off the
||highway and to my parents house, I shut the car off, parked it, and
||went inside for about 20 minutes. Then, when I went to leave to go
||home, I noticed that the shaking and vibrating was completely GONE!!!!
|| What the hell!!?? Simply shutting the car off and parking it for 20
||minutes has somehow cured the problem!!?? I drove all lastnight and
||so-far today and it has not done the same thing once! Not even a
||little bit!
||
||So this has me totally flabergasted. Because I could see if it were
||an engine problem, then maybe reseting the engine by turning it off
||could possibly fix it, but this in no way felt like an engine problem
||at all! It felt completely like something was phyically damaged or
||disturbed. Maybe I'm wrong? I mean, I know when an engine has a
||mis-fire like a bad coil that the engine will shake violently under
||load, so maybe this is the case, but it definately didn't feel like it
||to me...

Maybe you threw some slush up into somewhere it should be, and it froze?
That could cause an imbalance or other unpleasantries.
Texas Parts Guy

That all depends whether it's a Supreme or a Ciera
Bob
"Roger Maxwell" <zroger73@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:331bu3F3peft9U1@individual.net...
> An '89 Cutlass doesn't have a radiator fan with a clutch. It's a FWD,
> transverse engine with an electric fan.
>
> Roger
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41CB1C77.375EF128@sympatico.ca...
>> Just a wild guess, but I would be checking the rad fan for a busted
>> clutch.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> bigbossfan80 wrote:
>>>
>>> It's been about 8 months now since anything has gone wrong with my 89
>>> Cutlass Supreme. I was starting to like not having to repair or
>>> replace, and instead just maintain!
>>>
>>> But lastnight I drove to Mississauga, Ontario to pick-up my brother.
>>> It's an hour and a half drive on the highway. Going there, everything
>>> was smooth as always. But, on the way back, about 20 minutes from
>>> home, I noticed quite a violent shaking and vibration through the gas
>>> pedal, floor board, and especially steering wheel/column. For some
>>> reason I thought right away that it was a transmission thing, but then
>>> I realized it was doing it in every gear, and ONLY when I was at a
>>> certain throttle point.
>>>
>>> For example, if I was 0-20% on the throttle, it was fine, 20-50%, it
>>> was shaking violently and wouldn't accelerate, and 50%+, it was
>>> fine!??
>>>
>>> It was also making loud, almost grinding noises. And the steering
>>> wheel shaking could be heard as well as fealt. Same with the gas
>>> pedal itself, I could feel it pulsating really violently in my foot.
>>>
>>> Needless to say I was very worried. Once I got onto city streets, I
>>> noticed it would even do it in 1st gear while starting to accelerate
>>> initially, then once I got past the throttle point in which it woud
>>> shake and rattle, it would stop until I was in the next gear and back
>>> at that same throttle point.
>>>
>>> It kind of felt to me like something was all-of-a-sudden very loose,
>>> like something in the steering rack, column, or drive-line. My
>>> brother is under the impression that it didn't start doing this until
>>> I had accidently drove over too far on the left hand side and ran over
>>> all those closely placed BUMPY things to make you slow down. But I am
>>> not sure this is the case...
>>>
>>> Anyways, what makes this SO strange, is that once I got off the
>>> highway and to my parents house, I shut the car off, parked it, and
>>> went inside for about 20 minutes. Then, when I went to leave to go
>>> home, I noticed that the shaking and vibrating was completely GONE!!!!
>>> What the hell!!?? Simply shutting the car off and parking it for 20
>>> minutes has somehow cured the problem!!?? I drove all lastnight and
>>> so-far today and it has not done the same thing once! Not even a
>>> little bit!
>>>
>>> So this has me totally flabergasted. Because I could see if it were
>>> an engine problem, then maybe reseting the engine by turning it off
>>> could possibly fix it, but this in no way felt like an engine problem
>>> at all! It felt completely like something was phyically damaged or
>>> disturbed. Maybe I'm wrong? I mean, I know when an engine has a
>>> mis-fire like a bad coil that the engine will shake violently under
>>> load, so maybe this is the case, but it definately didn't feel like it
>>> to me...
>>>
>>> Anyone have any input to this crazy story??
>>>
>>> THANKS GUYS!
>>>
>>> Merry X-mas
>
>

An '89 Cutlass doesn't have a radiator fan with a clutch. It's a FWD,
transverse engine with an electric fan.

Roger

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41CB1C77.375EF128@sympatico.ca...
> Just a wild guess, but I would be checking the rad fan for a busted
> clutch.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> bigbossfan80 wrote:
>>
>> It's been about 8 months now since anything has gone wrong with my 89
>> Cutlass Supreme. I was starting to like not having to repair or
>> replace, and instead just maintain!
>>
>> But lastnight I drove to Mississauga, Ontario to pick-up my brother.
>> It's an hour and a half drive on the highway. Going there, everything
>> was smooth as always. But, on the way back, about 20 minutes from
>> home, I noticed quite a violent shaking and vibration through the gas
>> pedal, floor board, and especially steering wheel/column. For some
>> reason I thought right away that it was a transmission thing, but then
>> I realized it was doing it in every gear, and ONLY when I was at a
>> certain throttle point.
>>
>> For example, if I was 0-20% on the throttle, it was fine, 20-50%, it
>> was shaking violently and wouldn't accelerate, and 50%+, it was
>> fine!??
>>
>> It was also making loud, almost grinding noises. And the steering
>> wheel shaking could be heard as well as fealt. Same with the gas
>> pedal itself, I could feel it pulsating really violently in my foot.
>>
>> Needless to say I was very worried. Once I got onto city streets, I
>> noticed it would even do it in 1st gear while starting to accelerate
>> initially, then once I got past the throttle point in which it woud
>> shake and rattle, it would stop until I was in the next gear and back
>> at that same throttle point.
>>
>> It kind of felt to me like something was all-of-a-sudden very loose,
>> like something in the steering rack, column, or drive-line. My
>> brother is under the impression that it didn't start doing this until
>> I had accidently drove over too far on the left hand side and ran over
>> all those closely placed BUMPY things to make you slow down. But I am
>> not sure this is the case...
>>
>> Anyways, what makes this SO strange, is that once I got off the
>> highway and to my parents house, I shut the car off, parked it, and
>> went inside for about 20 minutes. Then, when I went to leave to go
>> home, I noticed that the shaking and vibrating was completely GONE!!!!
>> What the hell!!?? Simply shutting the car off and parking it for 20
>> minutes has somehow cured the problem!!?? I drove all lastnight and
>> so-far today and it has not done the same thing once! Not even a
>> little bit!
>>
>> So this has me totally flabergasted. Because I could see if it were
>> an engine problem, then maybe reseting the engine by turning it off
>> could possibly fix it, but this in no way felt like an engine problem
>> at all! It felt completely like something was phyically damaged or
>> disturbed. Maybe I'm wrong? I mean, I know when an engine has a
>> mis-fire like a bad coil that the engine will shake violently under
>> load, so maybe this is the case, but it definately didn't feel like it
>> to me...
>>
>> Anyone have any input to this crazy story??
>>
>> THANKS GUYS!
>>
>> Merry X-mas

I agree with the slushie theory. Ice buildup inside the wheel (after going
off the road onto the bumpy things) will throw it off blance. Centrifigal
force will keep it there. Stop in the driveway, and the slushie falls away,
and voila, problem gone.


<rex@txol.net> wrote in message news:41cb49bf.90554178@news2.txol.net...
> On 23 Dec 2004 10:29:05 -0800, deanbrnz@yahoo.ca (bigbossfan80) wrote:
>
> ||It's been about 8 months now since anything has gone wrong with my 89
> ||Cutlass Supreme. I was starting to like not having to repair or
> ||replace, and instead just maintain!
> ||
> ||But lastnight I drove to Mississauga, Ontario to pick-up my brother.
> ||It's an hour and a half drive on the highway. Going there, everything
> ||was smooth as always. But, on the way back, about 20 minutes from
> ||home, I noticed quite a violent shaking and vibration through the gas
> ||pedal, floor board, and especially steering wheel/column. For some
> ||reason I thought right away that it was a transmission thing, but then
> ||I realized it was doing it in every gear, and ONLY when I was at a
> ||certain throttle point.
> ||
> ||For example, if I was 0-20% on the throttle, it was fine, 20-50%, it
> ||was shaking violently and wouldn't accelerate, and 50%+, it was
> ||fine!??
> ||
> ||It was also making loud, almost grinding noises. And the steering
> ||wheel shaking could be heard as well as fealt. Same with the gas
> ||pedal itself, I could feel it pulsating really violently in my foot.
> ||
> ||Needless to say I was very worried. Once I got onto city streets, I
> ||noticed it would even do it in 1st gear while starting to accelerate
> ||initially, then once I got past the throttle point in which it woud
> ||shake and rattle, it would stop until I was in the next gear and back
> ||at that same throttle point.
> ||
> ||It kind of felt to me like something was all-of-a-sudden very loose,
> ||like something in the steering rack, column, or drive-line. My
> ||brother is under the impression that it didn't start doing this until
> ||I had accidently drove over too far on the left hand side and ran over
> ||all those closely placed BUMPY things to make you slow down. But I am
> ||not sure this is the case...
> ||
> ||Anyways, what makes this SO strange, is that once I got off the
> ||highway and to my parents house, I shut the car off, parked it, and
> ||went inside for about 20 minutes. Then, when I went to leave to go
> ||home, I noticed that the shaking and vibrating was completely GONE!!!!
> || What the hell!!?? Simply shutting the car off and parking it for 20
> ||minutes has somehow cured the problem!!?? I drove all lastnight and
> ||so-far today and it has not done the same thing once! Not even a
> ||little bit!
> ||
> ||So this has me totally flabergasted. Because I could see if it were
> ||an engine problem, then maybe reseting the engine by turning it off
> ||could possibly fix it, but this in no way felt like an engine problem
> ||at all! It felt completely like something was phyically damaged or
> ||disturbed. Maybe I'm wrong? I mean, I know when an engine has a
> ||mis-fire like a bad coil that the engine will shake violently under
> ||load, so maybe this is the case, but it definately didn't feel like it
> ||to me...
>
> Maybe you threw some slush up into somewhere it should be, and it froze?
> That could cause an imbalance or other unpleasantries.
> Texas Parts Guy

"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
newsOXyd.983$NH2.100046@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
> I agree with the slushie theory. Ice buildup inside the wheel (after
going
> off the road onto the bumpy things) will throw it off blance. Centrifigal
> force will keep it there. Stop in the driveway, and the slushie falls
away,
> and voila, problem gone.
>
snippage
> >
> > Maybe you threw some slush up into somewhere it should be, and it froze?
> > That could cause an imbalance or other unpleasantries.
> > Texas Parts Guy
>
>
>

Had a drunk run me off the road into a muddy ditch early one foggy morning.
After the wrecker pulled me out, I had terrible vibration from the front end
of my Chevy pickup. Mud had stuck into the inside of the LH front rim.

Garrett Fulton