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Old 11-20-2004, 19:00   #1 (permalink)
MIRSE
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Default 86 Oldsmobile coil problem

Our 86 Oldsmobile Delta 88 has a problem with its distrubutorless coil. We
bought it new back in 1986.

There are 6 cylinders.

There are 3 coils.

Problem: The middle coil that fires cylinders 2 and 5 has no spark.

We have never worked on distributorless coils. We are just your average
weekend mechanics.

Question: Do we have to buy an entire new coil back with the 3 coils, or can
we just buy a single middle coil that sends a spark to cylinders 2 and 5?

Can we take the coil pack apart and clean some of the contacts?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old 11-21-2004, 04:00   #2 (permalink)
Harry Face
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Default Re: 86 Oldsmobile coil problem

You need to buy the whole coil as its all one unit. Chevy Dealer list
price in July was $127.00 for my coil, my cost through a buddy's
discount was $89.00

4 -6 screws hold it down, remove the ignition wires and the wires
underneath the coil that connect to the ignition module.

You might want to get the gasket that goes between the coil & ign
Module. It will no doubt break apart when you remove the coil.

Good Luck !

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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,274 miles_~_~_

~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_

~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan







 
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Old 11-21-2004, 16:00   #3 (permalink)
MIRSE
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Default Re: 86 Oldsmobile coil problem

>Subject: Re: 86 Oldsmobile coil problem
>From: harryface@webtv.net (Harry Face)
>Date: 11/21/2004 12:33 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <22157-41A02896-69@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>
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>You need to buy the whole coil as its all one unit. Chevy Dealer list
>price in July was $127.00 for my coil, my cost through a buddy's
>discount was $89.00
>
>4 -6 screws hold it down, remove the ignition wires and the wires
>underneath the coil that connect to the ignition module.
>
>You might want to get the gasket that goes between the coil & ign
>Module. It will no doubt break apart when you remove the coil.
>
>Good Luck !
>
>=========
>Harryface
>=========

Thanks for your help. Can I get the 86 Oldsmobile coil pack at Chevy, or do
I have to get it at Oldsmobile? Thanks.
 
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Old 11-21-2004, 19:00   #4 (permalink)
Harry Face
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Default Re: 86 Oldsmobile coil problem

If you want to stick with a GM Coil any GM dealer would be able to
order one for you if one is not in stock.

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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,274 miles_~_~_

~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_

~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan







 
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Old 11-21-2004, 19:00   #5 (permalink)
ABC
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"MIRSE" <mirse@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041121130133.05904.00000532@mb-m19.aol.com...
> Thanks for your help. Can I get the 86 Oldsmobile coil pack at Chevy,

or do
> I have to get it at Oldsmobile? Thanks.


You can most likely get one at any salvage yard.


 
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Old 11-21-2004, 19:00   #6 (permalink)
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"ABC" <DEF@YYY.net> wrote in message
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> "MIRSE" <mirse@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041121130133.05904.00000532@mb-m19.aol.com...
> > Thanks for your help. Can I get the 86 Oldsmobile coil pack at Chevy,

> or do
> > I have to get it at Oldsmobile? Thanks.

>
> You can most likely get one at any salvage yard


Are you certain it is the coil. You should be able to verify that with a
resistance check once you get the coils unplugged. I would be more
suspicious of the module.
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Old 11-22-2004, 01:00   #7 (permalink)
MIRSE
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>Subject: Re: 86 Oldsmobile coil problem
>From: "ABC" DEF@YYY.net
>Date: 11/21/2004 5:18 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <yu8od.950006$Gx4.204617@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
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>"ABC" <DEF@YYY.net> wrote in message
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>> "MIRSE" <mirse@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20041121130133.05904.00000532@mb-m19.aol.com...
>> > Thanks for your help. Can I get the 86 Oldsmobile coil pack at Chevy,

>> or do
>> > I have to get it at Oldsmobile? Thanks.

>>
>> You can most likely get one at any salvage yard

>
>Are you certain it is the coil. You should be able to verify that with a
>resistance check once you get the coils unplugged. I would be more
>suspicious of the module.

*******
Thanks for your help.

Resistance check: Could you please go into more details how I can do a
resistance check on the coils?

What should the resistance readings be? Thanks.

I have never worked on this distributorless coil in our 86 Oldsmobile even
though we bought the car new in '86.
We know very little on how this type of coil works or how to work on it.

We have been trying to educate ourselves on this distributorless system by
studying our 86 Olds Haynes book and by checking out auto sites on the web.

Still, trying to replace or check out the coil and module assembly is new to
us.

We keep the car around for sentimental reasons. Our main car is a 1998 Dodge
large passenger van that seats 7 and that has about 100,000 miles on it.

We have been lucky with the 86 Oldsmobile, because the coil is the
original coil that came with the car.

Module: How can we check that the source of the no-spark problem to
cylinders 2 and 5 is the module instead of the coil that provides juice to
cylinders 2 and 5?

The reason I ask is that the module seems like it is hard to take off,
because the 3 nuts that hold the module to the engine are in hard to reach
places.

Thanks for any help.
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