Tranny trouble

Hello group:

My daughter has a '96 Cavalier. The tranny has stopped responding
completely. No gears work and the fluid is brown.

When we went to move it, she said that it would move. After she started it,
she revved it to 3-4k and it lept forward and stalled. We restarted and
from then on, nothing. Disabled. Dead. I think the cause of the problem
was, she overfilled it by a quart or so.

My question is: what part of the tranny would break if it was overfilled? I
am familiar with RWD trannys (THM350, 400, etc.), but reluctant to yank this
FWD tranny if I don't have to...

(I'm getting to old for this sh__)

"Dave Monat" <david.monat@snet.net> wrote in message
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> Hello group:
>
> My daughter has a '96 Cavalier. The tranny has stopped responding
> completely. No gears work and the fluid is brown.
>
> When we went to move it, she said that it would move. After she started
it,
> she revved it to 3-4k and it lept forward and stalled. We restarted and
> from then on, nothing. Disabled. Dead. I think the cause of the problem
> was, she overfilled it by a quart or so.
>
> My question is: what part of the tranny would break if it was overfilled?
I
> am familiar with RWD trannys (THM350, 400, etc.), but reluctant to yank
this
> FWD tranny if I don't have to...
>
> (I'm getting to old for this sh__)
>
>

Sounds like the clutch packs are burned out. The fluid being brown indicates
high temperature like ctutch slippage. The fluid may also smell burn't.
It sounds like it leaks and your daughter has just overfilled it, that can
cause issues if it's way over full. A couple quarts of fluid will make the
transmission fluid foam and introduce air into the system. Could be the
cause of the problems.

"Dave Monat" <david.monat@snet.net> wrote in message
news:ieu3c.33396$JP7.14199@newssvr16.news.prodigy. com...
> Hello group:
>
> My daughter has a '96 Cavalier. The tranny has stopped responding
> completely. No gears work and the fluid is brown.
>
> When we went to move it, she said that it would move. After she started
it,
> she revved it to 3-4k and it lept forward and stalled. We restarted and
> from then on, nothing. Disabled. Dead. I think the cause of the problem
> was, she overfilled it by a quart or so.
>
> My question is: what part of the tranny would break if it was overfilled?
I
> am familiar with RWD trannys (THM350, 400, etc.), but reluctant to yank
this
> FWD tranny if I don't have to...
>
> (I'm getting to old for this sh__)

What engine and tranny does she have?

It's the small four cyl. (2.2?) and tree speed trans.

"Phillip Schmid" <schmste8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > (I'm getting to old for this sh__)
>
> What engine and tranny does she have?
>
It's the small four cyl. (2.2?) and tree speed trans.

"NoSpam" <nomail@spam.not> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Monat" <david.monat@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:ieu3c.33396$JP7.14199@newssvr16.news.prodigy. com...
> > Hello group:
> >
<snip >
>
> Sounds like the clutch packs are burned out. The fluid being brown
indicates
> high temperature like ctutch slippage. The fluid may also smell burn't.
> It sounds like it leaks and your daughter has just overfilled it, that can
> cause issues if it's way over full. A couple quarts of fluid will make the
> transmission fluid foam and introduce air into the system. Could be the
> cause of the problems.
>
You may be right, but I didn't see any foaming. The pump seals or something
may have broken.

I was just fishing for any common GM FWD tranny issues, that may cause a
symptom like no response until the engine is revved up. Something I could
drop the pan and fix )

You aren't likely to find anything in the pan that is going to help you.
The valve body is on the side, beneath the side cover, and you probably
won't find anything in there, either, unless you are a tranny guy and know
what you are looking for. I would suspect that the pump grenaded. Look for
a junkyard trans with a warranty, that is my best advice.

Jerry


"Dave Monat" <david.monat@snet.net> wrote in message
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> It's the small four cyl. (2.2?) and tree speed trans.
>
> "Phillip Schmid" <schmste8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c2m11b$1v2l2c$1@ID-72906.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > > (I'm getting to old for this sh__)
> >
> > What engine and tranny does she have?
> >
> It's the small four cyl. (2.2?) and tree speed trans.
>
>
>

"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
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> You aren't likely to find anything in the pan that is going to help you.
> The valve body is on the side, beneath the side cover, and you probably
> won't find anything in there, either, unless you are a tranny guy and know
> what you are looking for. I would suspect that the pump grenaded. Look
for
> a junkyard trans with a warranty, that is my best advice.
>
> Jerry
>
Thanks, everyone. I guess I'm gonna hafta do what I hafta do (