Great setup Loomis....

You're really doing your homework buddy.
Must be great having a lifelong job working on the 24 team.
No pressure for you to perform at all.
You only have to depend on the driver and pit crew to make up for your lack
of setup skills. :-(

"Daniel" <sabot120mm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:1124820144.410242.46960@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > What about 2001, were you "disgruntled" with Loomis then too?
> >
> > 2001 was not all about Robbie Loomis being a great crew chief. He
sucked
> > before 2001 and 2001 happened in spite of Robbie, not because of him.
> >
> > >
> > > I really don't understand why most of the JG fans are so upset with
> > > Loomis, if not for the NEW points system he would of had his 5th
> > > championship last yr!
> >
> > That's speculation. Again - the 24 car suffered badly last year when
they
> > missed the setup off the truck. You should do a google search and
you'll
> > find that there was a good deal of clamor last year about Robbie's
inability
> > to get a car together on the track. The fact of the matter is that they
> > didn't win the Championship last year regardless of the point system.
If
> > Robbie was as good as you're suggesting they should have walked away
with
> > the last 10 races.
>
>
> You should look up the interview where princess jeffy admits he is not
> able to communicate to Loomis what the car needs as well as he used to.
> Again, the driver IS part of the team, and the crew chief does NOT
> drive the car.
>

I certainly don't hold Gordon above any responsibility with regard to the
team's status, but I think that comment reflects more on Robbie than on
Jeff. It's not the driver's job to tell the crew chief what the cars needs
to have done to it - it's the crew chief's job to know that based on what
the driver tells him the car is doing. I think the issue Gordon's talking
about here is that Robbie can't figure out what to do based on what he hears
from Gordon.

--

-Mike-
mmarlow@alltel.net

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Daniel" <sabot120mm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1124883985.923746.195330@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Mike Marlow wrote:
> > > "Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > news:1124820144.410242.46960@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What about 2001, were you "disgruntled" with Loomis then too?
> > >
> > > 2001 was not all about Robbie Loomis being a great crew chief. He
> sucked
> > > before 2001 and 2001 happened in spite of Robbie, not because of him.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I really don't understand why most of the JG fans are so upset with
> > > > Loomis, if not for the NEW points system he would of had his 5th
> > > > championship last yr!
> > >
> > > That's speculation. Again - the 24 car suffered badly last year when
> they
> > > missed the setup off the truck. You should do a google search and
> you'll
> > > find that there was a good deal of clamor last year about Robbie's
> inability
> > > to get a car together on the track. The fact of the matter is that they
> > > didn't win the Championship last year regardless of the point system.
> If
> > > Robbie was as good as you're suggesting they should have walked away
> with
> > > the last 10 races.
> >
> >
> > You should look up the interview where princess jeffy admits he is not
> > able to communicate to Loomis what the car needs as well as he used to.
> > Again, the driver IS part of the team, and the crew chief does NOT
> > drive the car.
> >
>
> I certainly don't hold Gordon above any responsibility with regard to the
> team's status, but I think that comment reflects more on Robbie than on
> Jeff. It's not the driver's job to tell the crew chief what the cars needs
> to have done to it - it's the crew chief's job to know that based on what
> the driver tells him the car is doing. I think the issue Gordon's talking
> about here is that Robbie can't figure out what to do based on what he hears
> from Gordon.


True, but it is the drivers job to tell the CC what the car is doing,
something princess jeffy seems to be unable to do according to jeffy
himself.

On 2005-08-24 07:48:53 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> said:

>
> "Daniel" <sabot120mm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1124883985.923746.195330@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> "Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>> news:1124820144.410242.46960@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What about 2001, were you "disgruntled" with Loomis then too?
>>>
>>> 2001 was not all about Robbie Loomis being a great crew chief. He
> sucked
>>> before 2001 and 2001 happened in spite of Robbie, not because of him.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I really don't understand why most of the JG fans are so upset with
>>>> Loomis, if not for the NEW points system he would of had his 5th
>>>> championship last yr!
>>>
>>> That's speculation. Again - the 24 car suffered badly last year when
> they
>>> missed the setup off the truck. You should do a google search and
> you'll
>>> find that there was a good deal of clamor last year about Robbie's
> inability
>>> to get a car together on the track. The fact of the matter is that they
>>> didn't win the Championship last year regardless of the point system.
> If
>>> Robbie was as good as you're suggesting they should have walked away
> with
>>> the last 10 races.
>>
>>
>> You should look up the interview where princess jeffy admits he is not
>> able to communicate to Loomis what the car needs as well as he used to.
>> Again, the driver IS part of the team, and the crew chief does NOT
>> drive the car.
>>
>
> I certainly don't hold Gordon above any responsibility with regard to the
> team's status, but I think that comment reflects more on Robbie than on
> Jeff. It's not the driver's job to tell the crew chief what the cars needs
> to have done to it - it's the crew chief's job to know that based on what
> the driver tells him the car is doing. I think the issue Gordon's talking
> about here is that Robbie can't figure out what to do based on what he hears
> from Gordon.

communication is a two way street ~ both parties have to do it
effectively... If Gordon doesn't feel that Loomis can figure out what
to do based on what he hears from him, then Gordon needs to figure out
a different way to say it.

--
...."this I admit, tastes so good, hard to believe an end to it, smell,
touch, feel... how could this rhythm ever quit?"...

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Crusader wrote:
> "Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:1124820144.410242.46960@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Mike Marlow wrote:
> > > "Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > news:1124768008.514882.289880@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > 4-X-Champ wrote:
> >
> > BTW, ALL drivers have bad yrs no matter how good they are, if JG
> > doesn't finish in the top 10 this yr (I think he will)it's not that big
> > of a deal because Mark Martin is the ONLY NASCAR driver to finish in
> > the top 10 throughout his entire career, not even Dale Sr, Richard
> > Petty or DW did that.
> > Mark Martin, the best Driver in NASCAR history to never win a
> > championship, yet.
> >
> Actually Ron, it is something of a big deal if JG doesn't finish
> in the Top10 Final Points. He has a current streak of 11 seasons inarow.
> He could tie MM & Lee Petty for 3rd all-time behind DW's-15 & RP's-19.
>
> MM finished out of the T10 in 5 of his 19 Full-Time seasons (22total):
> '03-17th, '01-12th, '88-15th, '83-30th, '82-14th.
> BTW, MM has 4 2nds, BAllison-5, RP-6.

Oops, I was thinking of a trivia question from waaaaaay
back....Something about who was the only driver with 10 consecutive
top-10 points finishes in the 90's....I think the choices were Dale Sr,
JG, MM, and Terry LaBonte.

I still think JG will finish in the top 10 this yr, especially with
Bristol coming up this wk.

> CRU

Ron glad u took my info as a good thing, not a personal thing.
--
Crusader

"Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> Crusader wrote:
> > "Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:1124820144.410242.46960@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > > Mike Marlow wrote:
> > > > "Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:1124768008.514882.289880@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > > 4-X-Champ wrote:
> > >
> > > BTW, ALL drivers have bad yrs no matter how good they are, if JG
> > > doesn't finish in the top 10 this yr (I think he will)it's not that big
> > > of a deal because Mark Martin is the ONLY NASCAR driver to finish in
> > > the top 10 throughout his entire career, not even Dale Sr, Richard
> > > Petty or DW did that.
> > > Mark Martin, the best Driver in NASCAR history to never win a
> > > championship, yet.
> > >
> > Actually Ron, it is something of a big deal if JG doesn't finish
> > in the Top10 Final Points. He has a current streak of 11 seasons inarow.
> > He could tie MM & Lee Petty for 3rd all-time behind DW's-15 & RP's-19.
> >
> > MM finished out of the T10 in 5 of his 19 Full-Time seasons (22total):
> > '03-17th, '01-12th, '88-15th, '83-30th, '82-14th.
> > BTW, MM has 4 2nds, BAllison-5, RP-6.
>
> Oops, I was thinking of a trivia question from waaaaaay
> back....Something about who was the only driver with 10 consecutive
> top-10 points finishes in the 90's....I think the choices were Dale Sr,
> JG, MM, and Terry LaBonte.
>
> I still think JG will finish in the top 10 this yr, especially with
> Bristol coming up this wk.
>
> > CRU
>

"Julia" <jpchick83@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2005-08-24 07:48:53 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> said:
> > "Daniel" <sabot120mm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1124883985.923746.195330@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> Mike Marlow wrote:
> >>> "Ron" <bigelile@webtv.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:1124820144.410242.46960@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >>>> What about 2001, were you "disgruntled" with Loomis then too?
> >>
> >> You should look up the interview where princess jeffy admits he is not
> >> able to communicate to Loomis what the car needs as well as he used to.
> >> Again, the driver IS part of the team, and the crew chief does NOT
> >> drive the car.
> >
> > I certainly don't hold Gordon above any responsibility with regard to the
> > team's status, but I think that comment reflects more on Robbie than on
> > Jeff. It's not the driver's job to tell the crew chief what the cars needs
> > to have done to it - it's the crew chief's job to know that based on what
> > the driver tells him the car is doing. I think the issue Gordon's talking
> > about here is that Robbie can't figure out what to do based on what he hears
> > from Gordon.
>
> communication is a two way street ~ both parties have to do it
> effectively... If Gordon doesn't feel that Loomis can figure out what
> to do based on what he hears from him, then Gordon needs to figure out
> a different way to say it.

Sorry i couldn't figure out who made the 'Princess Jeffy' comment,
but once again i must agree with 'the real Princess' Julia.
Loomis is such a nice guy & still so in awe of The Greatest-JG,
that he won't override the comparative know-nothing driver
to make the necessary changes.
Who knows what THE problem is?
My best guess is Loomis will not be JG's CC in '06.